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27 Jan 2021 18:05:49
According to SSN, benrhama singed a permanent deal, £20m plus addons. Lingard in advanced talks of a £3m loan, and clubs negotiating about Hee Chan, with Moyes having the final decision wether to go ahead with the deal. Promising movement I guess, but am I right in saying if they want to loan both players must they offer Dawson a full time contract aswell then?

Whitbyhammer

1.) 27 Jan 2021 18:35:38
You can only have two domestic loans at any one time but you can still get loans from abroad.


2.) 27 Jan 2021 18:49:11
That would be my assumption Whitby as well with 2 loan deals, but the rules complicated, I have looked on Google, but more interested at the moment of having a couple of 🥃🍺before evening meal🤣😂🍺🥃⚒⚒⚒.


3.) 27 Jan 2021 19:00:12
I think the total amount of loans from an English club is 2 but can add 2 more from foreign clubs but I could be wrong.

I don't really get the lingard transfer we have lots of attacking midfielders already the loan fee is high and he's not match sharp he's barely played.

Striker should have been sorted based on Eds post below it doesn't sound to promising.

Hee chans record for Salzburg is decent but doesn't look like he's stepped up at other clubs. Very fast and works hard could be a useful addition.


4.) 27 Jan 2021 19:44:23
Think there might be an agreement of £1m loan fee for Lingard, which is less than Utd originally wanted.


 

 

26 Jan 2021 00:05:45
Hwang hee chan from RB Leipzig by all accounts, South Korean striker who is nick named "THE BULL". South Korean, we r interested on signing him on loan till end of season, don't k ow anything of him but other West Ham fans saying he looks a good one?

Whitbyhammer

1.) 26 Jan 2021 08:31:17
Morning Whitby, I saw his name linked with us as well, but really take no notice as we all now how journalism works!
However as with Son at Spurs, they have a 2 year call up into their Military as some point, but that will obviously have been considered? I like the general work ethic in Football of a lot of Asian and Eastern European players, but that’s generalising of course! But really hope we add somebody up front to keep us pushing on👍
Slippery game tonight, won’t be able to watch it as it’s on BT, but hopefully will get it on poor mans listening🤣COYI⚒⚒⚒.


2.) 26 Jan 2021 08:59:32
I’ve read that the club is keen as his work ethic and style of play suits Moyse. The Davids are also particularly interested because it would open up merchandising opportunities for the club in south east Asia.


3.) 26 Jan 2021 09:39:33
He is t really much of a goal scorer, have seen him play a number of times as watch the South Korean national team play most of their matches and like most South Koreans, Son perhaps one of the exceptions, works hard, good on the ball, but doesn’t score often.


4.) 26 Jan 2021 11:30:43
Markro, The work ethic was almost certainly the reason Wilshere was limited if his claims about being fit for the last 8 months are to be believed, don’t think he ever broke into a sweat playing, he was lazy, as was the same of Haller and Anderson? Moyes was hardly going to come out to the media and tell them that! We all know Moyes won’t tolerate slackers, why should any Manager?
Merchandising is of such importance to all clubs, Son is like a God in S Korea, he is idolised also another way to claw back some of the big losses on outrageous overpriced signings of MP👎especially if we managed a Son type signing, he’s my favourite and most exciting non WH player in PL to watch⚒⚒⚒⚒.


5.) 26 Jan 2021 12:24:50
Fully agree chelms, son for me is exceptional, my boss is a Spurs fan for his sins and I say all the time I would only take one player from your team no questions asked and that’s sonny. Not sure what nationality he was but can you remember je sung park who played for Man U, he had a right engine on him, brilliant player. I for one would like this to be true, for the player and like u say the doorway it opens into the Asian market could only benefit us financially, if we aren't there already.


6.) 26 Jan 2021 14:45:04
Ok just watched some clips on you tube ok ok you tube can make anyone look good but loved the way he was 1st defender closing ball down high up the pitch
Would love us to sign a player like that seems to have an engine.


7.) 26 Jan 2021 18:03:52
Park was South Korean too and one of the best midfielders in Asia. If anyone is expecting Hwan to be anything like Son they are going to be really disappointed.


8.) 27 Jan 2021 16:01:06
Son has pace to burn, a cool head and makes great runs. He scores so many good goals.


9.) 27 Jan 2021 19:10:45
Agree Son is brilliant and if Hwan was anything like him he would be snatched up. But when Australia have played Korea the focus is watch Son as no-one else including Hwan is likely to score.


 

 

22 Jan 2021 00:26:48
Sorry one more question, I've read today about Chelsea and frank on the verge of the elbow, but that's not what I'm getting at, I read that there's chat that mount wants to come to us to play with rice, like I say I only read it, I don't know if our board are interested or if it's possible. Please don't shoot the messenger, and I can't remember where I read it but has anyone heard anything of this? Have you Ed? It's probably crap but wow if it's true that would be nice.

Whitbyhammer

1.) 22 Jan 2021 01:28:55
I am aware they are chums from being tiny kiddies in the Chelsea Academy but am not aware of Mount saying he wants to leave Chelsea for West Ham.


2.) 22 Jan 2021 05:00:28
I doubt it. I did see a joke about Mount joining us as he wants to play Champions League and there is more chance with us, but I haven’t seen any talk that wasn’t tongue in cheek.


3.) 22 Jan 2021 07:50:44
Wow Whitby, that’s some rumour😮Not sure I can see that happening? There are some real mischievous rumours that do do the rounds, but that would really be some 2 attacking midfielders to have in your team? That would be a summer deal though?
Meanwhile would be good to get help as we all keep saying up front for Ant! I would like to see Bowen more central as he loves going for goals to help Ant, we have a decent choice of wide players! All in all we have a real decent squad! What a shame Liverpool lost last night😂🤣that shows what a decent result we had against Burnley, underrated team⚒⚒⚒⚒.


4.) 22 Jan 2021 08:34:02
I kinda chuckled myself when I read it, it kept referring back to how they are great mates and want to play for club and country together, and the unrest at Chelsea, I know it’s tabloid crap I guess but I thought I would share lol. Pigs might fly me thinks.


5.) 22 Jan 2021 10:13:17
easy lads he's priced way out of our range. Nothing wrong with dreaming though.


6.) 22 Jan 2021 21:56:45
Tammy Abrahams doesn’t play every week,? and when he played against he was sharp. £30m would probably get him. He’d be my choice.


 

 

22 Jan 2021 00:22:39
Ed have you any new updates you can let us in on mate, that could have legs? Lot a chat about king, I'm not too sure myself if he's worth 15m @ 29 and not really set the world alight, is he prone to an injury or two? I don't really know much about him. On a side note, has anyone ever heard out from iron Mike? I know he's not been on for ages but didn't know if any of you were I. Touch over other sites 🤷‍♂️.

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{Ed002's Note - West Ham have been flip-flopping between striker targets and Josh King would give them a certain amount of predictable stability, but it would only be a short-term solution. There does seem to be a lack of focus on targets - not for the first time. We have not heard anything from Mike but he remains welcome here.}


1.) 22 Jan 2021 08:35:13
Cheers Ed, I’m not to sure on a king deal, especially as you say short term, I hope they go for someone for long term.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know why more effort has not been in to what was the preferred option of Moussa Marega who can sign a pre-contract now. With Milik moving to Marseille the pick of the players they have been looking at is Boulaye Dia - but there is a great deal of interest in him. He could certainly add something to West Ham's attack.}


2.) 23 Jan 2021 10:56:06
ed is there any team worse than west ham whem it comes to transfer dealings?

so many teams seem to indentify a target then sign them but west ham are always linked with a number of players and the then end up with a loan or a cheap option or nobody.

{Ed002's Note - The problem still seems to be that there is no other football person in the hierarchy who can, with the coach and the scouts, decide on a short list of targets that the club can stick to. Whilst the Dildo Brothers should quite rightly be identifying the finances available, there should be a Director of Football or similar working with Moyes and the scouts to say, for example, we will let Haller go and we will spend the money on Boulaye Dia as first choice else Josh King or look Moussa Marega on a pre-contract and shore up the defence with James Tarkowski. It seems to be a far more random approach flip-flopping between targets. On the plus side Jack Sullivan was not appointed Director of Football.}


 

 

16 Oct 2020 19:20:54
Now then lads, dunno if it's done or what but I've just read at 19:20 that he has signed on lan with a few to buy at the end with a fee of £25m 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️.

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09 Jan 2021 12:47:26
Good day to you gents and ladies if there is any on here, just read an interview with haller and he has openly admitted that he didn't adapt to the one the game over here and two to the team set up and style of play, also that it made sense for both parties for him to move on, that he knows the coach and league and now Moyes can bring in the right players for him and the team. So maybe he wasn't that bad of a bloke, it's a shame he couldn't have been a pro and adapted but not everybody does we all have seen that throughout many teams not just ours. I for one am glad he has gone for himself and the team and I mean that in the most respectful way, I hope he does well I really do. I'm very interested what Moyes does next. I think there could be a good chance that arnie might be brought back, so al say this I did like him as a player especially when he was put up front, he did a right job for us. Don't get me wrong I hated how it ended and his brother is a total twit for being a greedy so and so. So if he did come back then I hope it's the guy that we all loved but then again people say ya should never go back. So on that I hope Moyes does the right thing am se he will, I e said it before maybe it's time to recall silva back
(if we can, and I hope that's his name 😳)
COYI ⚒⚒.

Whitbyhammer

1.) 09 Jan 2021 13:19:28
If Arnautovic could regain the form he once had for us, he could do a great job.

There’s a lot of media speculation about multiple striker targets. We’ll just have to wait and see what Moyse and the club can get done.

Sooner rather than later would be good though, as Antonio (great as he is when fit) is only one wonky sprint away from an extended holiday on the sidelines. Where would we be, then?


2.) 09 Jan 2021 17:13:45
I liked Arnie when he ain’t to criticize him because if some offered me 3/ 4 times my wages I was currently on I’d be in a taxi.


 

 

25 Sep 2020 21:29:20
Hi Ed, sorry to ask mate but is there any legs in this rice scenario that you know of?

Whitbyhammer

{Ed002's Note - I really don’t know what this scenario is.}


1.) 26 Sep 2020 12:53:11
If he actually was going to ask to leave do you believe he would go tell people first Whitby? Maybe a close friend, a person he trusts, but not the media. It is all speculation and maybe all planted by Chelsea if I was to be completely cynical to try to cause unrest.


2.) 26 Sep 2020 14:01:39
Sdl, I don’t believe anything in the papers until I see it for real, they all talk rubbish. I just thought if anyone has an idea it would be Ed he’s been spot on so far.


3.) 27 Sep 2020 02:47:52
Fair enough Whitby, and rightly so. I personally believe, without any evidence, that these type of stories are planted by the club looking to buy to unsettle the player or to try to get the club that owns the player to be ready to deal.


 

 

15 Sep 2020 06:35:54
Just a little message to say thanks to Ed for giving us the info, just read that an American consortium are looking at making an improved offer as a £350m takeover offer was rejected last month. Pretty much backing up what you have been saying bud, I know as you said this doesn't mean things will happen this season but it's good to know your info is bang on, hope some of the other rumours will start to fall in now. Cheers man ⚒⚒.

Whitbyhammer

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


1.) 15 Sep 2020 09:38:43
£350m?, I would imagine they would want nearer £600 knowing them.


2.) 15 Sep 2020 10:04:33
Morning Ed002, I know you have probably been over this but are the US consortium serious over WH buy out or is just a dip in the water with their offer to see where they stand

There seems to be more coverage in the papers about this, but maybe they just got the news where as u told us much earlier
Thank you in advance.

{Ed002's Note - It is probably a good time for this question and to update the previous post. Firstly, there are several groups circling premier league clubs with a view to buying. One is digital media distributer Henry Mauriss who is interested in buying Newcastle United if the deal with the Saudis falls through completely - he could also be persuaded that there is value in other clubs such as West Ham (but realistically the earliest they can be sold is 2021 and the 2023 is more likely) - Damien Comolli is doing the legwork for those involved.

James Pallotta has sold Roma and could look to another club - has interest in buying low, flipping and selling high.

The third is rather more "shark" like. Ex Bordeaux owner Joseph DaGrosa and Hugo Varela (who has work as an intermediary and run "for profit" soccer schools) have formed a business called Kapital Football with a view to emulating the City Group using Qatari money to back them. They tried to buy Newcastle as a starting point but that was always a non-starter - they would like a club that is a "lion waiting to roar" as their start and would also like it to be a Premier League club, possibly London based, with owners perhaps willing open to selling at a reasonable price - and that very much makes West Ham the most attractive. This would be known to Tripp Smith who may well be looking to increasing his 10% share to 30% which means he can make an offer for the entire club but to do that he would need the help of one of the owners. The covenant runs out in 2021 means that the owners can then sell the club if they wish. Smith would get a £10M discount offsetting his loan if and when that happens. If, however, the owners decide they do not want to sell they can easily block it using their combined 86% ownership.

A wildcard thought is that existing West Ham shareholder Tripp Smith could look to finding a partner (such as LA Rams shareholder Todd Boehly) to buy out the remainder of the West Ham shares.

Billy Beane is a self-confessed Liverpool supporter and owns much of the Oakland As and is the "moneyball" guru. But whilst FSG would like an investor to sell part of Liverpool to (particularly given their major financial issues at the moment), it is questionable where any of the high-profile expensive EPL sides has the growth potential of other sides across Europe. Clubs like Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea will see growth potential flatten out whilst the chance of growth remains elsewhere - and remember these folks are investing other people's money - not their own. Noteworthy is that the former Premier League chair Richard Scudamore has joined the board of Billy Beane’s RedBall Acquisition Corporation who have guarantees from investors circa $500M. That mean they have the investment funds to look to buy a decent club in mainland Europe or the lower end of the Premier League.

The one thing to remember with investors such as these is that they are looking for a return on investment - so they need to get growth in the value of the business - which could see investment into the business limited to some extent - think of the first 6 or 7 years of FSG at Liverpool and Klopp’s original selling point that he would build the club without buying expensive players – that of course eventually changed.

As for West Ham, I think that nothing can realistically happen until next year at the earliest after the covenant on the stadium starts to ease. However, it doesn’t mean that groundwork cannot be undertaken in advance.}


3.) 15 Sep 2020 11:10:20
Thx for the detail.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


4.) 15 Sep 2020 11:35:46
Cheers Ed, I wish you were my drinking buddy :),


5.) 15 Sep 2020 14:33:07
Warrington, who can blame them for wanting the biggest pay day when they do sell, you can only sell once, you can’t go back and ask for more after! When we moved Houses like most people, I told the agent I wanted more than his recommended asking price as I was expecting to be knocked down anyway!

The prospective buyer offered £10,000 less than my asking price, which would have been the same as agent suggested, so I was able to use the £10,000 towards the usual expenses! But that was 14 years ago, but the same common sense still applies.

Not rocket science I know but common sense! ⚒⚒⚒.


 

 

12 Sep 2020 22:01:14
Fornals needs to go he is terrible he may aswell of not been on the pitch. Poor performance all round to be fair. We need to get some new players in and shouldn't have sold Grady.

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05 Sep 2020 16:34:04
Oh my god we are crap, I finished work and started watching @ start of second half. Everyone looks rubbish, front to back, top to bottom. I am not a fan of fornals at all. Fredrick and cresswell need to be sold or released terrible and they both blame everyone else. Didn't see first half but by this half awful.

Whitbyhammer

1.) 05 Sep 2020 17:42:31
It wasn’t that bad. Billing played well when he came on. Oh, hang on a minute.


2.) 05 Sep 2020 19:03:03
Disgraceful performance but considering what's going on behind the scenes is it any surprise.


 

 

 

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27 Jan 2021 16:11:41
Ive just read that Lingard is all for the move to West Ham. Also the father in law showed me a piece saying that Moyes/ the board were looking to use balbuana to get a young promising keeper, it was only a heading though so didn’t see the rest.
Ed is there any idea if Dawson is going to get a contract with us do you know?

Whitbyhammer

{Ed002's Note - They must of recently had the conversation about sending Dawson back (expensive), signing Dawson (cheap) or signing Benrahma (future debt). If you had asked me at the start of the month I would have said the would bite the bullet and send Dawson back to Watford. The implication is now that he is playing regularly and everyone seems happy with him then it would make sense to take up the option and sign him at the end of the season. Financially it makes sense.}


 

 

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26 Jan 2021 12:24:50
Fully agree chelms, son for me is exceptional, my boss is a Spurs fan for his sins and I say all the time I would only take one player from your team no questions asked and that’s sonny. Not sure what nationality he was but can you remember je sung park who played for Man U, he had a right engine on him, brilliant player. I for one would like this to be true, for the player and like u say the doorway it opens into the Asian market could only benefit us financially, if we aren't there already.

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22 Jan 2021 08:35:13
Cheers Ed, I’m not to sure on a king deal, especially as you say short term, I hope they go for someone for long term.

Whitbyhammer

{Ed002's Note - I don't know why more effort has not been in to what was the preferred option of Moussa Marega who can sign a pre-contract now. With Milik moving to Marseille the pick of the players they have been looking at is Boulaye Dia - but there is a great deal of interest in him. He could certainly add something to West Ham's attack.}


 

 

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22 Jan 2021 08:34:02
I kinda chuckled myself when I read it, it kept referring back to how they are great mates and want to play for club and country together, and the unrest at Chelsea, I know it’s tabloid crap I guess but I thought I would share lol. Pigs might fly me thinks.

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15 Jan 2021 09:38:59
Pissing myself at Ed, like an angry dad. “I’ve explained the situation, now sit down and eat you veg” Hahahaha. We are like exited kids if this is a goer lol.

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25 Jan 2021 13:55:19
I was wondering how much it is costing the club each months me especially match days at home. I’m still getting money back for my season ticket aswell for us not been able to go. So times that by how many others.

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19 Jan 2021 14:41:55
So so sorry to you both, we also just lost a family friend to it, he was in his 80’s but that’s not the point, he was a lovely bloke and the best friend to my wife’s nan before she passed away a few years back. It’s a horrible thing this CV crap. Again so sorry to you guys and I know this is a wet ham rumour site but real life goes on I guess, but I’m with you, a result tonight and a striker signing please, required for some cheer ups and smiles all round
Stay safe guys.
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16 Jan 2021 18:47:53
Totally disagree with the Benrahma comments, thought he had a very good game and shouldn’t have come off. For me he’s far better than lanzini, makes an effort to close down when defending, far more skill full and confident going forward when lanzini came on he always comes back even when there is a chance to run at them. His passing was a bit better than normal today not all of them connected, but I agree with iron Al the goal was from his ball and the pass later to Antonio, I personally rice had his blinkers on at one point going forward he played it down the right for Antonio and he should have gone left for Benrahma he would have been one on one with mee, and I would fancy that he would get sumat. For me he has to stay it’s their it just needs unlocking and he needs a goal.

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01 Jan 2021 19:49:08
Ogbonna like a rock today brilliant game for him, the whole team put a shift in, I much prefer Bowen over yarmalenko.
Oh sorry nearly everyone put a shift, haller has to go I’m 100% team Chelmsford, I fail to see how he could have played number 10 before coming to us, I just can’t see it at all so what’s gone wrong, has he just come for the money or what, he can’t pass, he can’t hold a ball up, he never wins a header and 80% of the time doesn’t even jump, a number 10 sees more than one pass when he was deeper even he couldn’t pass a ball off then. But in all seriousness who would take him on, we all know we aren't going to get £45m for him so what’s the answer, I would take a punt on king, or recall silva back and give him a go if we are able to do that that is.
All in all 3 points so that I will take.

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01 Jan 2021 00:42:32
Happy new year to Ed and all the gang on here, to raver and the wolves guy. All the very best to you all. It’s been a crap year but it has given us some strong people and some heroes. So to any of you on here who is a frontline worker or has family that is a frontline worker, weather it be care home or the NHS frontline, or whatever form it may be, I wish you all the best and all the strength to power through. Stay safe and look after yourselves. We owe you so much. We need to keep on trucking as a unit. I hope you all. we all have a better year. All the best
Dean
(Whitbyhammer)
And of course COYI ⚒⚒⚒.

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{Ed047's Note - happy new year Dean