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29 Dec 2025 15:01:31
How many times are we going to go through this changing manager after manager?
A long list of factors have got us to where we are, and whilst Nuno has made curious selections, its the decision making of those who employ him which has got us in this situation.
So many times we hear about the toxic atmosphere in the dressing room and its this very attitude which transfers to performances on the pitch
Its quite clear we need to start making preparations for relegation and as such, try and offload players NOW to get the best price possible.
In Jan we should be cashing in on tobido, kilman, paqueta, bowen and preparing for next season
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29 Dec 2025 16:23:24
Apart from bowen, who would want to pay for the others when in y mo ths they'll get them at a bargain price
29 Dec 2025 17:36:33
Agreed, but imagine how much less they will be in the summer when we get relegated.
Its the ideal opportunity for someone to buy the club at knock down price in the summer, build a proper home and turn the club around
29 Dec 2025 11:03:07
Morning all, I've just seen a post on FB saying since January 1st 2025 until today West Ham have only won seven games, that's shocking, big big changes needed or we will end up being a mid table championship team just like other teams that have been relegated from the Premier League in recent years.
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29 Dec 2025 12:13:04
Nothing will change until we get shot of Sulivan and Brady. Two people who know nothing about football but apparently are top business people. But they have shown themselves to be totally incompetent in that sphere as well. Until they go we will get this constant ground hog day scenario. It’s been going on for nearly 10 years>………….
29 Dec 2025 16:45:19
Agreed Hammer-D. The trend will continue and things won't change until they are gone. Regardless of which manager is brought in, until this squad is properly sorted and we have a clear out (and that means get rid of those creating the toxic atmosphere) and removing those in charge at the top, it don't matter what manager we have.
We already hear Nuno wants particular players, but Sullivan has other ideas. And its decisions like this which have got us where we are
28 Dec 2025 23:46:19
I know many on here were not Moyse fans, and I was. Yet, since the man left we have been truly awful. The last year of Moyse was poor. But the board did not help the situation. After winning in Europe they should've said to Moyse 'there's a 3 year contract' or 'Thanks, but it's time to go.' Instead they let it drag on for one year. Meaning nothing got sorted and Moyse was probably demotivated. If Moyse was manager now we'd be in mid-table ending between 7-9th - like all Moyse teams do.
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29 Dec 2025 09:05:35
Sunderland wernt 8 or 9th when moyes was there?
Moyes wasted millions to be honest he is not unique in that but we got progressively worse each of the last 3 seasons under moyes he did a decent enough job when he was here so I don't dislike him but it was time for him to go I think
The biggest problem was that they have got all the subsequent appointments wrong
29 Dec 2025 13:58:52
Every appointment after Moyse has been a poorer version. I fully agree. I’d like to see Marco Silva. His teams play reasonable football, similar to a John Lyall side.
29 Dec 2025 14:21:18
Marco Silva would have been my pick after Potter Brooking or ireola at Bournemouth plays good football aswell
28 Dec 2025 12:12:36
What I don't understand with our board is they never appoint a tactically aware manager? Our managers always follow a defensive avenue: Moyes, Loppy, Potter, Nuno. Pellegrini is considered a solid manager but he lost the plot with his buys when our managers. Many fans wanted Moyes gone, but there were problems between Moyes/Steidten. The football was not great, but with Moyes we would not be in this position.
We are going down this season, and only Wolves are worse than us in footballing styles!
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28 Dec 2025 16:17:26
OK roll the dice, who would YOU appoint right now, if Nuno is sacked?
28 Dec 2025 16:54:12
You’re right — with Moyes we’d already be a Championship side. I can’t believe some people are still banging that drum. Who do you think left us with the oldest, depleted, and slowest first team squad? Get real.
28 Dec 2025 18:24:03
I think this is a reflection on the boards ambition, just happy for us to stay up no interest in progress at all
29 Dec 2025 07:18:13
You find it hard to admit you are wrong Tin? ?
West Ham were in Europe 3 years running and won a trophy. They have been slowly getting a lot worse since Moyes left, that is a fact.
You saying they’d already be relegated is an opinion, and a pretty hyperbolic one at that.
It’s fine that you didn’t like his style of football or approve of everything he did, but he’s still been WHU’s most successful manager by a country mile for quite some time
29 Dec 2025 09:12:17
We started getting worse under moyes that is a fact, he did a decent enough job but it was time for him to go, the appointments that followed have left supporters looking at moyes through rose tinted glasses. The last season under Moyes was dire, he left us with a small ageing squad which is a big part of the mess we are in now .
29 Dec 2025 12:37:28
Irons87,
I’ve always said that Moyes should have gone in Nov 2022 during the world cup. Robbo has echoed everything else I said
Exactly where, in your opinion, have Robbo and I got it wrong? And if my memory serves me well, weren’t you one of Potter’s strongest supporters also?
Regards,
Tin.
29 Dec 2025 14:03:40
I’d like to see Marco Silva.
I thought Potter would do well. His buys Fernandes, Diouf and Magasssa - have all turned out to be good buys. The GK has turned to be a poor acquisition.
29 Dec 2025 14:15:39
By all accounts, a deal had been struck with Marco Silva after we won the Europa Conference League trophy in 2023, but Sullivan bottled it and kept Moyes. Had Silva come here in 2023 I doubt very much we’d be up to our necks in crap today.
29 Dec 2025 18:51:51
I wish Moyes had walked away after we won the conference cup. He would have had immense respect from most fans and we could have moved on post Moyes and rice. But even the season we won in Europe we we crap and going down hill fast. His last season was where this current downward spiral began, we sell rice and to replace him we buy JWP. Don’t get me started about potter, ok 2 of the 3 purchases you mention brooking are good but Diouf the jury is out. He also bought hermadsen who was a disaster and allowed Forrest to end the JWP loan deal and brought him back to West Ham. He also sanctioned the buying of zero strikers. Played Potts preseason and bought Magassa only to play Souchek and JWP in midfield, instead of them. The list goes on……….
28 Dec 2025 08:59:50
Morning all, do you think Nuno could get us out of the championship, Burnley and Wolves both have championship experienced managers, you would like to think he would as we should be able to attract the best players for that league, if not Nuno then who ?
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28 Dec 2025 09:49:56
Yeah I reckon he could at first shot. Lots of players need to be changed and a major rebuild needs to happen, starting at the very top, but, we should still be able to attract some top players.
Wrexham managed it!
28 Dec 2025 10:22:06
No I think he isn't right for promotion he is way too conservative can you imagine playing defensively all the time in the championship and never taking risks?
The way he plays is survival football not winning football
28 Dec 2025 11:45:58
I couldn’t agree more Robbo. Incredibly, some people are still looking at Nuno through rose tinted glasses whilst refusing to view the facts!
28 Dec 2025 11:51:27
REDROBBO, would you have Bilic back for the Championship
28 Dec 2025 13:20:03
I personally wouldn’t back Nuno for the championship. Even if we do stay up it debatable. But if we drop he would have to go.
I see no point in sacking now as I think it is a case of what will be, will be. I think chose someone with a long term strategy. But what’s the point of saying that whilst this board is in operation . I think the youth team coach could do a decent job as they have been doing pretty well and for that reason I think we would do okay in the championship if relegated.
28 Dec 2025 17:57:43
Nuno is a disaster. His cautious defence minded approach (which alienated Forest fans and their owner) is just what is NOT required in our situation. We need someone who is prepared to take risks. Bilic (or even Redknapp) has the mentality. Nuno is taking us down. (Sorry Mac and Hammer-D.)
28 Dec 2025 18:23:10
Stevie, I think there's a few decent managers there who could do a job fot us McKenna, Scott Parker knows the club and the championship
I like Bilic as a bloke but I think he had his time and i'm not a fan of going back to be honest
28 Dec 2025 19:12:47
If we’re in the Championship next season and given the World Cup would be over I’d like to see us go for a quirky disciplinarian who knows how to get out of that league and plays attacking football … Bielsa. At very least it would be fun!
27 Dec 2025 21:00:31
I think Hammer-D summed it up nicely. Pointless calling for nuno to be sacked because who is going to come in and do any better. 3 managers this season who have all done miserably.
One common theme is the lack of quality. As was stated previously, numerous teams bought wisely to strengthen in the summer, what did we do? No investment in strikers and a last minute freebie in Callum Wilson. Any wonder we are where we are?
We were fed rubbish about PSR etc etc. If true, which i doubt, we would have been better off bringing players in and taking the points deduction.
Yes nuno could have started Wilson, but I get the feeling he doesn't think wilson has 90 mins in him
32 strikers we've already been linked with and one lowball offer for kao George in true west ham fashion
Little wonder we are where we are. So, if and when we go down, who will manage us then because nothing will change until the board is changed
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28 Dec 2025 08:23:14
Slaven Bilic might just save us from the drop, but it may already be too late. A lot depends on the Wolves game. Less than 3 points will cut us off irretrievably. Sullivan and Brady are guilty of keeping Moyes too long, and then appointing three useless successors. You couldn’t write a bigger comedy. It’s now clear Nuno is also clueless in getting us out of trouble. We need points and Nuno’s tactics and team selection has achieved just 2 wins. It’s simply not good enough, but will the board support him financially and even if they do, is it enough? If he thinks the likes of Traore is the answer, then somehow I doubt it.
28 Dec 2025 12:22:27
I agree with you Tin Legs, Bilic is the go to man in this current mess of a situation. My mind keeps swinging from do we keep Nuno or cut loose and do we fight for survival or try and prepare for Championship success. It’s an absolute mess! One glimmer of hope is that your preferred choice of Thomas Frank gets the boot and becomes available particularly if he could be sold a total rebuild from top to bottom
28 Dec 2025 13:55:24
Hi Dabber I was thinking that regarding Frank. But I’m not sure if he is any good? Spurs have a board willing to pay money and back the manager. A squad already far superior to ours but he has been a dismal failure, like Amorim who many were championing! Hindsight is a great gift but I feel
Maybe the likes of Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth have a great blueprint print for hiring and firing managers and it is the system that works not just the personnel.
28 Dec 2025 15:48:39
I still think Frank is a perfect fit for us and I’m sorry Amorim didn’t come here. I think he would have been more successful with us than Man Utd. As it stands, Bilic has West Ham tattooed on his forehead. He might just get us out the crap with a few additional players, and he’s certainly nailed on for the Championship if he doesn’t. Nuno is a lost cause.
28 Dec 2025 18:04:38
Tin I appreciate Bilic’s first season at West Ham was the best season we’d had for years. Everything he touched turned to gold. But the second season was dire and I feel he is a better international manager. Because with Julian dicks as coach, the second season saw us as on of the most unfit I’ve ever seen. And he has failed at all other clubs he has been to and most were in the championship. I think you may be right regarding Frank but he hasn’t been very good at spurs but he could do better at a less prominent club like us. Amorin I think is exactly the same as our last 4 managers. Set in his ways only playing 3/5 at the back and in all honesty nobody really knew anything about him his name went viral on the internet then we had everyone saying we have to get him. But he comes from a league where there are only 3 teams.
I do actually like the sound of Rednapp at least it would be entertaining and he would encourage a lot of our youngsters
27 Dec 2025 19:51:10
What is Nunos record compared to Loppy and potter, anyone know?
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27 Dec 2025 20:36:25
Worse win rate I believe
27 Dec 2025 21:48:07
So why isn’t anyone saying sack Nuno like they was Potter ?
28 Dec 2025 04:49:22
Stevie i think some people are saying that and people would be justified for doing so and if these abysmal results continue then that will get louder. I fear as joyful suggests, that any confidence is now draining away and that could be pivotal in our ability to pick up points. Personally I feel the manager has been dealt a far worse hand than the previous 2 managers, and there have been some positives. I am quite open that I really didn’t like Potter and whilst I don’t want to start to list what I didn’t like about him but one very important thing was, (especially when we are all saying we only have one usable striker and he can’t play a full match) is that Potter was the one who said we didn’t another striker? Loppy had one window, potter had 2 windows and to be fair did bring in a few decent players in the summer, although he didn’t automatically pick them in the lineups. The manager does deserve to try to bring a few players in that may make a difference, but most likely most won’t come because we are still in the bottom 3 as we were when he took over and further down the line. Whilst we can all have our managers we like or don’t like we should all be united in the fact, that the architects of this sh*t-show are Sullivan and Brady’s running of the club for the last 10 years. The chickens are coming home to roost ?
27 Dec 2025 19:45:09
Hi guys.
Forest fan here. Not gloating, just wondered what your opinions of our ex manager are.
For me, he had run his course at Forest and I wasn't sad to see him go and I'm not surprised he's not had an impact for you.
I'd like to see us both stay up.
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27 Dec 2025 20:42:05
Gazzibaldi, a relative is a massive Forest fan now down South here, said this several times on here, he like you wasn’t unhappy to see to see Nuno leave and said lots of fans were pissed off with his defensive type of tactics when. they went in front!
I wouldn’t mind seeing the back of him myself, quoting he wants striker, then will take him off if he scores?
27 Dec 2025 19:17:40
Wolves haven't won a game all season but they play West Ham soon so what do you think will happen ??
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27 Dec 2025 20:44:45
Stevie, what do you think??Another poster recently said if you’re desperate we will always help the opposition out??
27 Dec 2025 19:14:05
Called it last season. We will go down. Last season we were lucky with a few wins. Who knows how long it will take to get back
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