West Ham Banter 2

26 May 2026 20:32:00
Thoughts on the assistant manager taking over? He did seem to have an impact when he joined. Definitely no nonsense style manager.

26 May 2026 21:27:52
I think I would be in favour of giving that a go compared to much of the dross we are being linked with. We did pick up when he arrived, and the players seemed to take to him. Although, it seems to be rumoured that Kretinsky wants Nuno to stay, but also wants a DOF, which Nuno wouldn't work with.

26 May 2026 09:51:08
So it's quite clear that due to our financial situation we need to raise around £150m from player sales

I was having a think about who is likely to leave and came up with the following

Areola £5m
Tobido £20m
Mavropanos £20m
Awb £15m
Diouf £20m
Fernandes £50m maybe more
Kilman £15m
Fulkrug £7m
Pablo £15m
Taty £20m
Bowen £40m
Summerville £30m
Cornet £1m
Lamadrid £1m
Alvarez £20m
Magassa £15m
Soucek £10m

A little optimistic maybe but I make that £289m.

Pay off our debts, sack Sullivan and £70m for new signings should work but we need an entire first 11 lol

Thoughts?

26 May 2026 11:33:51
It would be great to get these prices, Phil. But I can see many of the actual sale values far lower than you have put here. 15 million each for both Pablo and Killman? Whilst Pablo is young and hard working, can you see anybody paying more than 5 million for him (apart from us obvs 🙄).

40 million for Bowen, nearly 30. Love to see it, but sadly cant.

26 May 2026 11:42:50
Also, sadly, I don't think we can sack Sullivan. Let's hope things outside of football gather momentum to mean his position is untenable, and he is forced to sell, probably for a lower price.

26 May 2026 11:44:22
The more the window goes on, the lower the prices, as we get desperate. Not going to get anywhere near those prices, plus the wages are a big problem. If we can let JWP and Fulkrug go for free, it's a result.

Also, we can't sack Sullivan, he's an owner.

26 May 2026 12:20:29
Yeah, I know that, Robbo, but growing fans' pressure might force him out. It was a figure of speech, lol. 😆 😂 🤣

26 May 2026 17:01:48
I think we could get more for certain players if we hold our nerve, but if this list all sold we would be screwed.

26 May 2026 17:54:21
A lot will depend on who the manager is next season, to be honest, as to who stays and who goes, I think.

26 May 2026 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - Sly_C has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool's System: Who Benefits and Who Regresses?

25 May 2026 15:48:08
Hi, a gooner in peace. I'm so sad to see what has happened but I'm sure you will be back next year. We need the happy Hammers back in the PL!
If Nuno goes, I reckon Thomas Frank would be a good fit for you...

25 May 2026 17:06:48
Hi Sally, thanks for the post, I too think Frank would be decent, but I'm not sure he'd want to work for our board to be honest!

25 May 2026 17:07:16
Thanks, Sally, for the words of consolation. Sadly, after speaking to many Spurs fans and listening to some phone ins, I wouldn’t touch Frank with a barge poll. He sets his team up just not to lose. We’ve more than enough of these boring type managers.

25 May 2026 17:48:10
Frank built Brentford to be what they are now, and that's what we need. A manager who has brought a club up from nothing and been in the Premier League. And, once he got there, he made them stable, that's why Spurs grabbed him.

25 May 2026 19:09:44
Good point, problem there is a matter of confidence. Has he lost it?

He would certainly make my list... Joyful.

25 May 2026 19:50:26
In true Sullivan style, he will go for the first, easiest option, which, at this stage, seems to be Parker.

26 May 2026 07:34:07
Thanks also, Sally. W.Ham seemed to be liked by many others for some reason. As Mac3 said, Brentford were a nonentity until Frank came & turned them into a great, well run club, so surprised by the comments, but I'd be well happy to have him with us!
But, I can't wait to see our Damager out!
This will knock any complacency the club had about being a PL side.

We are now Championship. ⚒⚒⚒⚒

{Ed001's Note - I think you are massively overexaggerating Frank's part in Brentford's rise. He was just lucky to take charge at the right point, rather than being the main reason, he was a tiny part. Recruitment, similar to Brighton, is what the club was built upon.}

26 May 2026 11:50:26
I think I'm in a minority here but I totally agree Ed0001. I think he is a bit of a snake oil salesman similar to potter. Andrew's had zero experience in the Premier League and has done far better in 1 season than Frank did in all his time at Brentford. With Brentford it is the way the club is organised that seems to make everything work.

As I said before many of my Tottenham mates say he plays really boring methodical football with an emphasis on not losing. Which is what many on here including myself want to get away from and get someone in who throws a little more caution to the wind

{Ed001's Note - spot on H-D. You could have kept Moyes if you wanted to be bored each week.}

25 May 2026 09:28:17
Petty good article in the Guardian this morning by Jacob Steinberg this morning that sums it all up.

25 May 2026 10:35:56
Yeah, he nails it, and so many have said similar. Seems Nuno will be leaving and not because we got relegated.

Now, you cannot tell me that we hadn't planned for this ahead of time?

Therefore (and maybe the board have, but I doubt it; he will holiday first), the wheels should already be turning.



On the upside, we got Fearon, Potts, Earthy and Kante midfield for next season, with Hermandsen, Scarles and Kwp. We have Dan Cummings to play up front with Callum Wilson if he stays, so couple cbs and we dont have a bad 11 that should hold its own.

Bellamy as manager with new owners (ok, unlikely but I can hope).

25 May 2026 11:50:40
Dan Cummings has been awful for the u21s - doesn't even get a game most of the time. Would much rather see Ajala get game time up top, and also don't forget Marshall returning from loan unless we sell him.
Golambekis and Myers at the back, too.

25 May 2026 12:45:44
Young players won't get us up next year. None of them are close to being ready. We'll rely on Mads, Kwp, Scarles, Soucek, Wilson and Kilman. These players are too good for the Championship, but not good enough for the Premiership.

25 May 2026 13:20:20
If we are relying on Soucek and kilman i don't think ill bother with next season, plus the midget in goal will get bullied at every corner and long throw in with no VAR, I agree we need a couple of older heads but they need to be good and leaders, plus you don't know if the youth is ready i'd say Scarles, potts, Marshall, Earthy are definatly ready for championship others just need a chance I hope they get one and aren't stuck behind carthorses like Soucek and kilman

25 May 2026 15:27:36
Brooking 10, as others have said, this whole necessity of getting back to the Prem without a long term plan is exactly why we are in this position. Just to get there and hope for the best.
Killman, no thanks. Souchek has looked okay in some games this season, and he is a fans' favourite, but it's time to say goodbye to him, I feel. He has only looked so good because he is partnered with Fernandez, who is a proper player.

I think Hermandson will struggle without Disasi and Mav to help him. We do need some senior players, and I would like to keep Wilson to sort of mentor some of the other young strikers. I've heard good things about Golambekis and Mayers when played in central defence, and we have Scarles. I would try and keep Kwp, as he is quite versatile.
We also have Kante, Potts, Magassa (currently) and Fearon.

25 May 2026 09:20:24
I know it's a bad time and there will be a lot of knee-jerk reactions, but what worries me the most is the club statement, with talk of rebuild to get back in Premier League. No mention of reorganisation from the top down, so it's just the same BS we were fed when we moved to the OS.

25 May 2026 10:56:14
Mac, Sullivan won't sell his shares at a reduced price; he'll attempt to get promoted at the first attempt, then sell. This morning I'm not as gutted as I thought I would be. The last few weeks have actually drained me, but today, now it's reality, the positivity in me tells me this might be for the best. If we'd stayed up, nothing would have changed; now things have to change.

We have to follow the blueprint of Brentford and Bournemouth, and get our recruitment policy right for a start. I'll miss Fernandes, Summerville, Bowen (if he goes), but players come and go (Declan, who?) and new heroes will be found. The only permanent fixture is the fantastic fanbase, COYI!

25 May 2026 11:54:57
WH spent 2m organising a stats based computer rhythm, emulating Chelsea and the Brighton Lizard, and brought the man over from Brighton to run it.

After 3 months, Sullivan scrapped it, and reverted to his agent-led ways.



Bear in mind that Fernandes came from the stats system, and WH will make a profit on that.

Sullivan is out of his depth, from top to bottom; whilst he is in charge, nothing will change.

25 May 2026 13:55:22
And that is the reason we are in this position, joyful, as all West Ham fans know.

No way forward until he is gone, and Parker and Oneill are not the answer. Again, no forward vision for the long term.

25 May 2026 15:34:25
Hi Dabber. You could be right; that is not such a bad thing, and has needed to happen. I also like your positivity, and your planning and forward-thinking ideas. I think it is what many of us are asking for.

Sadly, the most pertinent sentence in this thread is Joyful's last sentence: "Sullivan is out of his depth, from top to bottom; whilst he is in charge, nothing will change."

I like the sound of Bellamy, but with Sullivan choosing, it will almost certainly be either Parker, O'Neil, Cooper or Dyche, all of whom fill me with dread.

I was going to renew my ST, but I might wait to see who is the manager before doing so.

25 May 2026 07:04:04
Morning all. All I can say is that this has been on the cards for a while. We were flirting with relegation last season and they didn’t do nothing about it, so we deserve what we got and I hope it’s going to hit the money men (owners) hard. Is Nuno going to stay? I doubt it. So who will come in?

25 May 2026 08:16:36
Totally agree, Stevie. We have dodged a few bullets over the years, now it's finally hit. I know, to some, it probably sounds like continually doing the same thing by getting shot of manager after manager, but he has to go. We had a decent period in between late Jan to around some time in March, and then back to rubbish. Too many mistakes to mention, but for me the Newcastle game summed up his failings, and in our most crucial game of the season.


But again, with Sullivan in charge, nothing will change because of his meddling and lack of knowledge.
As others have said, we do have a decent youth set up now, those players need to step forward and try and do for the club what the likes of Cole, Ferdinand, Lampard, Carrick and Defoe did for us, a complete reset. Only gonna be possible without Sullivan in charge.

25 May 2026 09:24:02
Sadly, it was always going to happen when the sole ambition was to survive. The last 10 years have been riddled with missed opportunities to push on, and we have not got what the club deserved. The supporters don't deserve this.

Still, weirdly, im happy to embrace the new chapter, different challenges, and no VAR, and hopefully more youngsters given opportunities due to lack of funds.

25 May 2026 10:57:31
Totally agree, Robbo.

24 May 2026 20:58:20
Driving home from the game today, my overarching feeling once it sank in that we are going to be playing Lincoln, Bolton & Charlton, was - we will be back.

I will renew my season ticket, I will probably do even more away days next year. I go with my brother who is less likely to go to every game, so I will go with my three year old daughter who absolutely loves West Ham.

There can only be brighter days ahead. West Ham till I die.

24 May 2026 21:39:17
Well said, mate.

25 May 2026 12:47:54
I'm not renewing my season ticket. I spent too much money going to away games. Time to start looking after the family.

24 May 2026 18:44:39
And so the fat lady has sung. Now what?

24 May 2026 19:13:06
Free fall? With a team consisting of Killman, JWP, Cornet and Pablo.

24 May 2026 19:16:18
Now that the whole squad is up for sale, we need a new manager.

24 May 2026 19:38:11
Agreed, Robbo, owners need a proper long-term vision for the club.

24 May 2026 20:02:55
On a positive note, we have a number of youngsters that can do a job in the Championship, so get them in and get them playing. We need a couple of older heads with leadership qualities and a manager that actually wants to play football, start rebuilding, and do it for the long term, not just season to season papering over the cracks.



On reflection, I'm quite looking forward to playing in the Championship. No VAR, different challenges as well, teams we haven't played in a long time, and a chance to wipe the slate clean (alright, I can dream, we will get a boring pragmatic manager like Allardyce last time we went down).

24 May 2026 20:58:40
I've heard Bellamy has been making overtures towards West Ham and by all accounts is a very good manager with some really intense workouts which really are appreciated by many players. I hope the interest is still relevant now the inevitable has happened.

24 May 2026 21:06:09
I think it must only be a matter of time before Sully goes. He was really taking some abuse today from much of the crowd. I don't know if any of it was audible on the television.
I really can't predict how any of this is gonna play out.

It could be a good thing in the long run, or could be the beginning of an even bigger decline, like what happened to City, Sunderland and Leicester.

24 May 2026 21:16:53
The problem is, Hammer Sullivan is incredibly greedy and won't want to sell at a knock down price, he is also arrogant enough to think he's done a top notch job.

24 May 2026 21:43:34
Oh, I know he is Robbo. But I think it's one thing to have a crowd baying for his blood because of incompetence, greed or fraudulence. What he is being accused of is far worse than those things, and even that thick-skinned moron cannot have roughly 30-40 k supporters chanting quite horrendous accusations each week.

And, if there is any truth in the accusations, surely he can't be fit to hold his current position.

24 May 2026 23:08:09
I'd have Bellamy. Ex West Ham, understands the fans, and gets his players fit and playing on the front foot.

We need a director of football as well.

25 May 2026 08:26:31
I think to get Bellamy would be great, imo. He was a real warrior when he played, so he will expect the same from his players! Be delighted to see the back of the Damager. 🎉 It's always pot luck with a new manager, so why not Bellamy, ex WH.

Not sure really how much difference that makes now, but if he shows interest & is willing to forfeit the Welsh job, that shows ambition to get back to club management. 👍 ⚒⚒⚒⚒⚒

25 May 2026 09:41:16
More likely to be Parker, to be honest, which isn't terrible. He's done well in the Championship, just need to say goodbye if/when we get promoted.

24 May 2026 18:23:02
Well that’s it, 39 points. Another season keeps us up, but we lost our way in a lot of games I remember, too many.

You can turn and twist it anyway you want, but despite our win today, our position.

Shows just not good enough.

In another week we will begin to find out, the beginning of changes all the way round, my commiserations to everybody tonight joyfull.

24 May 2026 18:13:50
Well the inevitable has happened, fire sale incoming - good loads of deadwood there, plus a summer of excuses from Sullivan and the itks.

24 May 2026 18:48:37
I think even the most optimistic of us saw this after the Newcastle game.

Maybe it's for the best in the end, and now will come massive changes.

If Sullivan doesn't go or sell up, then something has to be done to recruit properly, and also, with a World Cup coming, things need to be sorted quickly.

24 May 2026 16:52:07
First half usual dross. Nobody has a clue. So many sloppy passes, so lethargic and no effort. Yeah it's warm out but this is the last game of the season and to top it all spuds have scored.

24 May 2026 16:51:47
You have to ask yourself Whether we deserve to stay up?

We just don’t have the cutting edge required, it’s not over yet, but...

24 May 2026 13:09:01
Well here we are, we've had lots of missed opportunities this season leaving us on the brink, let's hope today is no another missed opportunity, come out the blocks fast and try to put spuds under as much pressure as we can.

24 May 2026 13:50:40
Let's hope we sign off this awful season in style, Robbo.

24 May 2026 14:28:18
No regrets today. Give it everything. What happens in the Spurs match will happen. Just give ourselves a chance.

24 May 2026 16:54:50
Garbage going down with a whimper.

24 May 2026 17:18:30
What the hell is up with Bowen today!?. 😡

24 May 2026 10:50:34
Well here we are, final day of the season, perhaps final day in the Premier League (for now anyway).

We all hope that some magic happens, no matter what the odds against us are.

If at 6pm we are relegated, it won’t be this game, it will be the bad decisions, points lost from winning positions, bad VAR decisions, horrible team selection, etc.



If by some chance, we survive, just get drunk and forget about football for a week, you can be sure that’s exactly what Sullivan will do.


Good luck to all our WH people today. Joyfull

24 May 2026 11:16:24
Well said, Joyful, and can I just say thank you for your informative posts across the season(s). Always written in a non provocative and empathetic manner. Appreciate the info and effort mate. 👏👏

24 May 2026 11:20:42
⚒⚒⚒ Well said C&B man, AKA Joyfull, which I don't think that you'll be feeling as your login name suggests when both games are finished. 🤔 🙊 I am well resigned to the fact that we're the team going down, so it can only be elation for me. 🎉 I am staggered; Spurs are in this position, bigger, better squad, but from many games past, when we've been ahead, the bloody manager tried to park the lorry for half the games, so we should never have been in this position.

Glad to see the back of him, hopefully. 👍 🤞 At my Daughters for a BBQ before the game, all Hammers there, then squeaky Bum time. 🙊 🙈 COYI. ⚒⚒⚒⚒

24 May 2026 12:14:40
Cheers Joyful, I'm just off to the game now, more in hope than expectation. I know it will be nerve-wracking, but if we can't beat a team who have already got their flip flops on, then what hope have we got. We need the help of others. Either way, can't wait to see the end of the season. COYI ⚒️⚒️⚒️

24 May 2026 13:47:04
Joyful, and everyone else on here. I've just arrived at the ground, and there's lots of people around, and it's not usually this busy.
Whatever happens today, as long as we go out to win, that's all that matters, whether it's prem or championship next season. God and the Elizabeth Line willing, I'll be here.