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09 Jun 2021 11:06:37
Apparently David Moyes is not looking to sign a goalkeeper this window because he believes Fabianski is good enough to still be our number one for a year and Randolph adequate back up.
Instead he is choosing to invest the money he has in other areas of the squad. Which I don't mind at all.
However, Arsenal have apparently made an approach for Ajax goalkeeper Andre Onana.
Now, Onana is currently looking at a 12 month suspension from football as a result of taking a banned substance. He is appealing the decision as apparently it was a mistake as he took his wife' medicine rather than the one he was meant to take in error.
He is a superb goalkeeper, still only 25 and apparently available for as little as £7 million even if the ban is lifted. This figure is likely to fall further if he loses his appeal to have the ban lifted.
When you consider Chelsea were looking to sign him for significantly more money prior to signing Mendy. and when you consider he is still young, has bags of potential and still to see and has Champions League and Europa League experience, I think we should be all over this and trying to get him in.
1.) 09 Jun 2021 14:02:23
Hi Die 4 I think it's a bit short sighted not to sign a keeper as Fab only has 1 year left and has had a few injury probs. I really like Johnstone and evidently he likes west ham. Listening to the England game where Stuart Pearce was commentating it was clear he likes him as well.
2.) 10 Jun 2021 07:52:22
Hey mercerl, I would rather we did sign a goalkeeper and that is what my post was about. I think we should be all over Andre Onana. I have also said in previous posts that Tomas Veclik the Czech no. 1 who is a free agent after leaving Sevilla is a "free" signing agents fees and bonuses etc aside that I think we should look at.
I have just seen a few reports recently that Moyes is looking at spending his budget on improving other areas of the team first.
I also saw a report the other day that apparently the Sam Johnstone link is off because we deem him too expensive.
3.) 10 Jun 2021 15:46:09
Don't know much about onana but all poked at Veclik a couple of weeks ago he seems to have lost his place at Seville due to Injury and wasn't offered a guaranteed 1st place, hence him turning down a new contract. You do worry about goalies who have had injuries. I watched Trott a free times a couple of years ago and thought he had promise. Do perhaps Moyes has a long term plan for the position.
4.) 10 Jun 2021 21:49:10
If Arsenal go elsewhere then Ryan could be a good backup.
5.) 11 Jun 2021 16:08:41
Let’s face it, onana cannot possibly get away with appealing the decision saying he thought it was his but it was actually his wife’s medicine, I would laugh that out of the room if I was on that board!
6.) 11 Jun 2021 23:12:00
His ban has been reduced to 9 months.
I still think we should go for him… let him settle in with the squad, settle in with the country and the culture… he is a class goalkeeper worth a lot more than the numbers being mentioned and still only 25 years old.
7.) 13 Jun 2021 09:10:05
Do not really see the point in signing a player who is ineligible to play for 9 months, that is a waste of 9 months pay!
Sam Johnstone all day long for me, proven keeper in premier league.
My priority would be a keeper and a couple of strikers, if we can pick up another cb then that’s a bonus.
8.) 13 Jun 2021 17:42:44
I see what you’re saying Bobby, but giving him a contract that pays him a fraction of any weekly wage we agree while he is suspended, or signing him with no signing bonus to off set against the wages we’d pay out during his suspension.
Given the money we’d save on transfer fee as a result of the suspension (Chelsea were rumoured to be looking at signing him for £30 million, he’s now available for £2-7 million depending on what article you read) I think we’d be foolish to not at least gauge his interest.
Signing a £30 million goalkeeper for a fraction of the price and not being able to play him for 9 months, would be like signing someone that subsequently gets injured.
10 May 2021 16:20:38
Eds, we have been linked with a handful of players from the Czech league after the success of Soucek and Coufal, but is Lukas Provod one of them by any chance?
If not, is there any team currently interested in Provod?
I think he'd be a great addition to our squad, versatile, can play anywhere on the left, can also play central midfield, strong, works hard and good in the air as well as with his feet.
Lukas Provod (LW) Inter enquired about his availability in January but he is well down the list of targets for them and would likely be no more than cover. Arminia Bielefeld were interstested before he moved last year. He would likely not get a Work Permit in England without an exemtion being requested.}
20 Mar 2021 20:30:30
Ed's, is there any truth in the "nikola Maksimovic has agreed to join West Ham in the summer" reports I've read online?
29 years old, Serbian international who currently plays for Napoli. Not sure what to make of it, free agent in the summer so is he to cover the squad position of Balbueba who's set to move on a free?
Have we completely given up on the idea of Caleta-Car from Marseille or Milenkovic from Fiorentina? (both linked with Liverpool and Manchester United respectively, so may be long shots any way) .
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any agreement but it would make sense as he will be out of contract. Maksimovic is a well respected player.}
1.) 24 Mar 2021 16:31:09
Hardly the Red Bull approach that's been oft touted but as you say, he's a decent player and on a free is sensible business.
What I'm not so enamoured with are the rumours linking us to freebies Marega, Aboubakar and Lundstram. The first two are 30 this year and aren't exactly prolific in defensively inferior leagues, so I'm highly doubtful either would have much, if any success in the PL.
As for Lundstram. meh, he's proving this season exactly why Everton had him running around in Leagues 1 and 2 for so many years before finally offloading him to Oxford. Nowhere near good enough to be a PL player despite one flash in the pan season last time out.
More worryingly, you'd have to suspect that he'd be being eyed as an alternate for Rice rather than Noble. Could you imagine the uproar in the Summer if Rice goes for big money and we sign Lundstram on a free as a replacement?!
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you mean about Red Bull.}
2.) 24 Mar 2021 16:49:47
The Red Bull model that Moyes bangs on about, younger players for the future etc. To quote the man himself:
“I don’t see our model that we should go and buy all the most expensive players in the world, because I don’t see that as a long-term future for West Ham, †he said.
“I use the Red Bull model as an example, because I see them buying in young players for the future. "
Nikola Maksimovic may well end up being an astute signing but he's in no way, at 30 this year a younger player for the future. That was what I meant by the Red Bull comment.
25 Jan 2021 08:19:45
Ed's, has there been genuine interest from West Ham in Adam Hlozek from the Czech Republic?
I am aware he was spoken about by Coufal and Soucek but are West Ham actually interested?
{Ed002's Note - There is a great deal of interest in the kid from across Europe, particularly from two German clubs but at 18 this is not really the right time to be moving and making it into the first team. The advice to the player is to stay where he is for now and develop. Although he is a player who will no doubt do very, very well in the future, he is not the solution to the immediate striker problem that West Ham have.}
08 Jan 2021 19:59:23
Is there any truth in the West Ham links to Moises Caicedo eds?
{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware and WHU have others they will look to to replace Declan Rice if he leaves.
Moises Caicedo (CM/DM/AM) My understanding is that he impressed when Manchester United were following up on looking at another player who they had first seen in the Real Sociedad reserves. There has been interest in Caicedo from other sides including Ajax, Atlanta, Inter Miami, PSV and Chelsea. Someone senior at Chelsea is very keen. I am not aware of any approach by Everton but an independent scout who has worked for Everton in South America attended games to watch him in September and October.}
1.) 08 Jan 2021 21:20:18
Thanks Ed.
2.) 08 Jan 2021 22:56:13
Excellent info. Thx Ed 002.
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03 Sep 2021 13:14:29
So, who will be in the starting XI in our game against Southampton?
1.) 03 Sep 2021 14:43:00
We need to get over these bloody Qualifiers first to see who comes back injured or knackered! âš’âš’âš’âš’.
2.) 07 Sep 2021 08:59:15
I expect both Kral, Vlasic and Masuaku to be on the bench. At a guess, If there are no injuries during the game, I reckon Vlasic will come on for Bowen. Maybe Arthur will get some time too (on for Cresswell) . I can’t see Kral on unless Rice or Soucek get injured, or we are defending a slender leading (in which case he’ll come on for a AM and support Rice/ Soucek) .
Moyse habitually sticks with the team that is doing well.
31 Aug 2021 19:57:02
This has been a good window, I won't lie though, I am really curious to see how Abdullah Sima does. He joined Brighton today from Slavia Prague but was immediately loaned to Stoke.
01 May 2021 19:36:51
Ed's, could you shed some light on something for me please.
If Man City or Chelsea win the Champions League and both finish top 4, and Manchester United win the Europa League and finish top 4. does England get an additional Champions League spot in the league (so 5th)?
{Ed002's Note - No. The 5th place goes to one of those sides winning in Europe and not being in the top four.
1.) 01 May 2021 22:13:07
Thanks Ed.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.]
25 Jan 2021 08:32:17
Ed's, can you cast a little light and help me understand the loan situation at the moment please, because I am a little confused.
The Premier League loan rules currently state that Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time. The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
The reason I am asking, Arsenal have supposedly agreed a deal to sign Martin Odegaard on loan from Real Madrid, with Dani Ceballos on loan from Real Madrid already, is that possible? Are they signing Ceballos permanently to facilitate this loan?
Also, with Matt Ryan also on loan at Arsenal from Brighton, that would make three loan players at Arsenal at the same time?
I understand there was talk that the loan restrictions would potentially be relaxed during the C.V. as a result of financial restraints, but I just wanted to clarify with you guys.
{Ed002's Note - The loan rules you mention apply to players from English and Welsh sides.}
1.) 25 Jan 2021 12:20:32
Thanks Ed.
So I am assuming that means we could technically loan two players from foreign clubs this window?
{Ed002's Note - Sure.}
07 Oct 2020 10:13:59
We have seen eight players leave permanently this summer.
GK. Roberto - Free Transfer
RB. Pablo Zabaleta - End of Contract
CM. Carlos Sanchez - End of Contract
CM. Jack Wilshere - Released
CM. Josh Cullen - Sold to Anderlecht
W. Grady Diangana - Sold to West Brom
F. Albian Ajeti - Sold to Celtic
F. Jordan Hugill - Sold to Norwich
and three players on temporary deals.
CB. Winston Reid - Loaned to Sporting Kansas City
W. Felipe Anderson - Loaned to Porto
F. Xande Silva - Loaned to Aris
Yet we have only signed two players this transfer window.
RB. Vladimir Coufal - Signed from Slavia Prague
CM. Tomas Soucek - Signed from Slavia Prague
I feel like we are leaving ourselves short in our squad should we get injuries or suspensions. I think it is obvious David Moyes wants a new centre back and that'll be a position we look to sign someone in before next Friday, and I think we might also be looking at a left back and a winger / forward still.
I kind of feel we need a central midfield player too.
Names being thrown about for incomings.
CB. Craig Dawson - Watford
CB. Joe Rodon - Swansea
CB - Steve Cook - Bournemouth
LB - Ryan Manning - QPR
W/ F - Said Benrahma
Are there any others?
1.) 07 Oct 2020 11:14:06
Josh king.
2.) 07 Oct 2020 11:15:02
DM no 2 has already said that we are light and they are looking to rectify that if we pick up 2 good championship players there some good free transfers out the offer a yes contract with the incentive of a 2nd yr if they perform.
3.) 07 Oct 2020 12:29:13
The players he has let down are: too old, too injury prone or not good enough. The only one who didn't fit those catagories was Diagarna who was obviously sold as we needed money.
4.) 07 Oct 2020 16:27:29
I agree Mark, but at the same time, that is still a hefty number of outgoings compared to incomings and does still leave our squad short of numbers in my opinion.
5.) 07 Oct 2020 18:47:11
Alan Irvine no2 has already said squad is light so I believe they will try to buy 2 championship players and maybe one or 2 free transfers.
6.) 07 Oct 2020 19:11:26
Well with 136 million wage bill we can’t afford for the season to stop again.
7.) 07 Oct 2020 21:19:01
At least we sold Roberto for more than he was worth 😂.
8.) 07 Oct 2020 23:16:11
When everyone says they was back up only Anderson zabs got any real playing you can’t rely on wheelchair.
01 Sep 2021 14:42:59
I must of missed that completely Ed. Fair enough.
{Ed001's Note - it was only a couple of seasons ago, but I am sure that it was. I might be mistaken though, it did happen once.}
01 Sep 2021 11:37:15
If we are all honest, with the exception of up front we are probably not too far off being a completely stocked team.
We have three goalkeepers in Areola, Fabianski and Randolph.
Five centre backs in Dawson, Diop, Ogbonna, Reid and Zouma. Although I could see Reid maybe going out on loan when the loan window is open.
Two left backs in Cresswell and Masuaku.
Three right backs in Coufal, Fredericks and Johnson. With Johnson also able to play on the left.
Four central midfielders by trade in Kral, Noble, Rice and Soucek.
Six wingers / attacking midfielders in Benrahma, Bowen, Fornals, Lanzini, Vlasic and Yarmolenko. With Fornals and Lanzini able to drop deeper if needed and potentially play the others as a false number 9 if needed.
And Antonio up top.
If Moyes is confident he can utilise attacking midfielders and wingers in a false 9 role when Antonio needs a rest then I trust his judgement.
That is not a shabby squad and I think there is enough there to cover as and when first teamers aren’t available.
{Ed001's Note - I thought the loan window was done away with?}
30 Jul 2021 10:07:57
Apparently Zouma has told Chelsea he is settled in London and doesn't want to be a part of any player exchange for Jules Kounde as he has no interest in moving abroad. Which, if true, would surely make a deal for West Ham a possibility?
Clearly we are interested in Zouma and Abraham, so I can see Marina Granovskaia MAYBE looking to use this to her advantage in a deal for Declan Rice.
Would we consider that? If we got Kurt Zouma, Tammy Abraham and some money for a Declan Rice replacement, is that a shabby deal? I have got to be honest, I would consider it.
08 Jul 2021 07:41:12
He looked tidy at this Euros.
16 Jun 2021 08:13:16
I imagine Burnley are going to want £20+ million for Tarkowski which on the face of it isn't bad for a Premier League proven central defender in this day and age. However, he is 28 and there are, in my opinion, younger players who are as good as him but with potential to be better, available for less. Duje Caleta-Car for example is 24 and rumoured to be available for £13 million. David Zima is 20 and rumoured to be available for £10 million. both of which, I would take over Tarkowski to keep a bigger budget on other areas.
05 Sep 2021 17:30:22
I agree with you both to a point, it is frustrating hearing the same story about him refusing a new contract unless there is a release clause, but I’m not being funny, other articles say no new contract has even been offered yet.
Also, the fact he hasn’t come out and said anything isn’t necessarily an indicator that there is truth. He could just be focused on his football and ignoring the chat about everything else.
Lastly, look at what has just happened with Harry Kane at Tottenham. The guy wanted to leave, wanted to join Manchester City, didn’t have a release clause and therefore Levy could play hardball and break the rumoured gentleman’s agreement the pair had.
Do I hold a grudge if Rice wants a release clause? Not in the slightest, as long as that release clause is at a reasonable value for the club. We want £100 million, so the release clause can be £100 million. What’s the problem?
29 Jul 2021 09:27:20
West Ham’ deal for the Olympic Stadium, could make the DGS very rich indeed. However, a sale of the club isn’t necessarily in the best financial interest for DGS at this point in time. When the Contract for the Olympic Stadium was being drawn up Legacy chiefs, who negotiated the contract with West Ham, were sufficiently concerned that Sullivan and Gold might make a quick fortune by selling up soon after relocating to the Olympic stadium that they incorporated a provision to recoup a percentage of any sale price to the public purse. DGS publicly say they have no plans to sell, but let’s face it, everyone has a price but provision stipulates that any sale within a certain time period, over a certain price would mean DGS don’t receive as much of the sale price themselves.
I will try to explain in Lehman’s Terms the key points of the contract.
In simplified terms, West Ham’s 99-year lease for the Olympic Stadium contains a clause stipulating that a percentage of the proceeds of any sale of the club should go back to the public purse, and that any sale that values the club at £125m or more triggers a repayment of somewhere between 7.5 per cent and 30 per cent, with more punitive rates the higher the price tag and if the deal takes place before summer 2021.
A sale after summer 2026 would not trigger a repayment at all, DGS would get all the sale value (minus the obvious) .
However, it is worth mentioning, the percentage amount paid to the public purse is applied not to the value of the deal but to an “adjusted considerationâ€, offset against the club’s debt. This means that if there are substantial debts to pay off first, the sale value would need to significantly exceed £125m before the repayment clause was activated and the taxpayer saw any return. The club’s debt (last I remember), owed in the main to DGS, stood at approx. £35m when accounts were last filed. Using that figure, if West Ham were sold today it would take an offer of more than £160m before any repayment was triggered.
Given that DGS have apparently just rejected a £500m offer from PAI Capital (amount mentioned above), if DGS did sell, they’d lose between £23.8-102m (split by ownership percentages) in repayments to the public purse. If they wait until the summer of 2026, they would receive practically the full sale price (split by ownership percentages) .
That is my understanding of matters. Whilst I would love to see West Ham bought by some mega wealthy consortium, I am unsure DGS would consider any offer all the time they would have to reimburse the public purse any amount of the sale price.
22 Jul 2021 15:05:09
Thanks Chelms, appreciate it, although not the accountant thing. Haha.
Look at the end of the day, West Ham have a decent starting XI as it is but let's be honest, our squad depth is lacking. We need reinforcements, especially with European football on the agenda this year.
Some articles suggested we have an £80 million transfer budget this year, others suggest we have nothing.
C.V. has had a big impact for a lot of clubs, I vaguely remember something Ed002 said "West Ham have been affected more than most" although if I am remembering incorrectly then I apologise now Ed.
We have let Anderson go for peanuts and we are looking to offload Yarmolenko. Lingard isn't looking all that promising either. So that is 3 attack minded players that we are losing, albeit, one of them wasn't at the club last season and one was only loaned to us.
As a fan, it concerns me the lack of strength in the squad. Rice got injured and we struggled for results. If we sell Rice and don't replace him, we are making a mistake.
I have said this in a couple of posts previously, if West Ham sell Declan Rice for cash, it won't be a bad thing IF WE INVEST THE MONEY PROPERLY. All we have got to do is look at the way Leicester have done business in the last few years. They have sold Kante and Maguire for big money and invested well in replacements. They're not struggling after offloading their prized assets.
I like young, hungry players. I thought Attila Szalai was an absolute monster for Hungary during the Euros. I think Yangel Herrera has done well in La Liga and I think he is tailor made for English football, he makes me think of Aston Villa' Douglas Luis - who coincidentally joined Villa from City after playing for two years in Spain on loan.
We need at least one forward and I agree Danny Ings would be an awesome signing, as would Tammy Abraham, but I don't see us signing both.
Long story short, if we sell Rice and invest wisely, I am sure we will still be competitive. If we keep Rice and don't have a decent budget for players to improve our squad depth, I am concerned that it could be a long season if we get an injury to a key player and a suspension or two. Can you imagine if last year whilst Rice got injured, Soucek had been suspended?
22 Jul 2021 13:08:15
Warrington, I have got to say it is a good argument but I am not sure I can agree with you.
Tammy Abraham and £40 million for Declan Rice, then signing Danny Ings for £20 million and Matheus Pereira for £15 million would be great business. I cannot disagree with any of that. However, I am not sure both Danny Ings and Tammy Abrahams would both join us. I think it is fair to say, both would expect to start each week. Ings won’t want to go from a guaranteed starter to the bench and Abraham wants first team football so is willing to leave Chelsea in search of it. With Antonio (who when fit is probably one of the first names on the team sheet currently) already at the club, I think both Ings and Abraham would hesitate to join us if the other already has, as it would be a hurdle to their first team opportunities. Does that make sense? I would love to be proved wrong though.
The problem I have with your suggestion is the lack of a Rice replacement. I know you suggested using players we already have but I don’t think they will give us even a fraction of the strength in midfield that we would be losing in the sale of Declan Rice.
Mark Noble hasn’t got the legs any more. He has started to look off the pace in games and with the addition of European football on a Thursday with league games on the Sunday! Honestly, I can’t see him being any more than a squad player, a decent squad player, but still a squad player.
Lanzini did do well last year when he covered for Rice, I don’t disagree and when we are playing teams whereby we can afford to be a bit more creative then playing him in a deeper role would be a good shout. However, in my opinion when Lanzini plays deeper we don't get the best out of Soucek. Lanzini is not defensive enough to give Soucek the freedom he gets with Rice alongside him. When Soucek goes forward, he has the confidence that Rice will cover anything behind and I don’t see Lanzini fills that void.
You also hinted at maybe playing Soucek a little further back, but I’ve got to be honest, why would you even consider that? Soucek is best as a box to box midfielder, able to get in to the box to score but equally as comfortable at the other end, so why restrict him and make him more defensive and lose that potency that he offers going forward?
Personally, I would have no issue selling Declan Rice if the investment with the money we get for him is used wisely, but a replacement for Rice if we do lose him is an absolute must in my opinion.
If Manchester City want him (although I think that has gone quiet now Fernandinho has signed for another year, although I think they’ll be back in for him next Summer if he is still a West Ham player) ; I would ask for Nathan Ake on loan for the season, Yangel Herrera on a permanent deal and £40 million. Arsenal have apparently earmarked Ake as a £25 million target if their move for Ben White fails and Yangel Herrera is apparently available for £20 million. Ake hardly featured last year but is a proven premier league centre back, but can also play left back and Herrera is a tenacious midfielder and has been out on loan at Granada in Spain for the last two seasons. Add Danny Ings for £20 million, Matheus Pereira for £15 million and Alphonse Areola on loan from PSG with an option to buy next Summer and we have signed a goalkeeper, a centre back (on loan), a central midfielder, winger and a forward and still have whatever budget was set aside for a striker and centre back and £5 million left over from the sale of Rice (although I imagine this would be diminished by the increase in wage outgoings and bonuses and sign on fees etc) .
We missed a trick with Chelsea in the shape of Marc Guehi, he would have been a great addition at centre back. Now he isn’t an option if Chelsea want him; I would ask for Tammy Abraham and £50 million. Add Attila Szalai from Fenerbache for £18 million (apparently available for 20 million Euros), Nahitan Nandez from Cagliari for £30 million (apparently available for 35 million Euros), Matheus Pereira for £15 million and Alphonse Areola on loan from PSG with an option to buy next Summer and we have signed a goalkeeper, a centre back, a central midfielder, a winger and a forward for a net spend of £13 million (although I imagine this would be more by the increase in wage outgoings and bonuses and sign on fees etc) .
09 Jul 2021 12:21:33
Bideford, I like the players you've mentioned but like Chelmsford said, Moyes has said we won't be signing a keeper and even if we do, I don't see us spending big money on one.
I am also in agreement with Chelmsford over Lingard. I think the longer that transfer rumour goes on, the more likely it will peter out to nothing. Unless Man U are holding him back for the sole purpose of using him in a bid for Rice.
And if we do sign Lingard, I don't see us signing another attacking midfielder, so that makes Pereira unlikely.
I do think our transfer business will pick up after the Euros but I think a lot of the bigger named players we are being linked to would probably want assurances over Declan Rice staying.
You also have a glaring lack of central midfield and centre back additions in your post. With Balbuena and Reid likely out the door, we will sign a centre back and I think we are desperately short in central midfield.
All this is my opinion, but I am not entirely convinced this window is going to be all that great for us.
I think with a new recruitment director coming in though, our targets may be changing based on who comes in. So again I can see that being another delay.