West Ham rumours 2

25 Jul 2024 11:58:16
Mazraoui deal agreed for £12m. He is a proper FB, very technical, two footed, plays both sides, defensively sound in 1v1's. Loads of pace and skill. Could stick him in as LB and still get AWB on the other flank. Wish we would go get SORLOTH

25 Jul 2024 13:20:01
Ornstein saying AWB rejected us as wants Milan move. They may look at using him in deal to get dumfries.
Makes sense why we have moved quickly to agree Mazraoui. Unfortunately his injury record is poor but probably explains why we are getting him close to half his market value on transfermarkt.

Still think we will return for KWP later on in the window as Southampton won't want to lose him on a free and coufals contract is up next summer.

I wouldn't be surpsied if Johnson does very well for Ipswich see no reason why he couldn't be as good if not better than KWP. Time will tell but we'll have moyes to thank for that one.

25 Jul 2024 10:19:59
SWITCHING? WH now back on Malik Thiaw of Milan CB, Todibo no Tomori looks no, can Will Salthouse his agent, persuade him to WH, just a maybe but he's expensive, can we run. To 30/35 m euro, he was one of first targets, but declined, HUIJSEN, are WH missing a trick with this youngster, ? Hope I'm wrong

25 Jul 2024 11:23:21
West Ham United have now opened up to the idea of selling Paquetá this summer.

Paquetá’s agents have informed West Ham that the midfielder wants to seek new opportunities and a possible return to Brazil.

As a result, they have decided to listen to proposals for the player. Flamengo have been informed about this and are extremely interested. FLAMENGO are hoping for loan with obligation to buy whereas WEST HAM would prefer outright sale

25 Jul 2024 11:29:45
So, after weeks of seemingly chasing DURAN, it now turns out that LOP actually already has his No 1 striker target in mind and its not Duran. Villarreal striker Alexander Sorloth is a key target for us this summer, so, I would therefore expect us to be going all out for him. He is very good in the air, has decent pace, he is strong, has an eye for goal and is a great finisher. Sounds like the ideal man and keep Antonio for a last 20 minute burst. Get rid of INGS and bring in another cheaper striker.

I still don;t get why we haven't brought in JOTA SILVA AND AWB at £20m for the pair?

25 Jul 2024 11:51:11
I heard something about 25m for Paqueta with another 25m of add ons which would only be achieved if he doesn't get banned.

Personally I can't see it. No ones guna take the risk and why would we loan him with an obligation Flamengo can't afford him. Maybe a Saudi club would.

I'd rather just keep him we get half a season out of him at least before his hearing. Then no guarantee that he's going to get banned anyway.

25 Jul 2024 14:55:23
Flamengo simply cannot afford pacqueta. In much the same way as west ham United cannot afford lamine yamal . As much as the Brazilian media bang on about it . Pacqueta is here next season.

25 Jul 2024 09:28:13
Hi Y'all, so after weeks of chasing DURAN, the 20-year-old has expressed a desire to play for a "BIG team", potentially hinting at a move to the London Stadium but its his public statements have raised concerns about his attitude. and he has removed all of his connections with ASTON VILLA.
Now, we already knew this fella had attitude issues, but I'm getting this strong feeling that nothing is going to change in west ham approach in signing new players.

Id we ALL Consider that Lopi wanted most of his signings in early so he could get them all bedded in, we are now in the same situation as in the past with last minute signings after the season has started for has been players such as INGS and this comes over more like desperation than planned. I hope i'm wrong but it seems to be heading that way, yet again!

Alot of frustrated supporters out there so its not just me before everyone starts having a go.

We ALL read is "in TIM we trust", but nothing has changed so what was the point of bringing him in. Scatter gun low bids, annoy teams and players and when we do get bids accepted we say they want too much, or their agent wants too much, or they just don't want to play for us or there is alwayas some other issue. How do other teams manage to identify and buy players and get them in early for integration. We've had months knowing who was leaving, who was needed and we have the smallest, oldest squad in the league already! We still need at LEAST 5 players and the strategy is all down to SULLIVAN.

Go out and get a propert striker for christs sake. if this Kid was that good why hasn't he dethroned WATKINS and why doesn't he play regular?

JOKE!

25 Jul 2024 11:37:48
The type of targets we have been going for have definitely improved and at least we have a few targets for each position.

Where as in the past Moyes would have us chase the same target all window and sullivan would haggled them to death.

We still appear to be a bit scattergun but at least it's more thought out rather than sullivan having his agents picks.

The way we negotiate certainly doesn't help but some of the targets holding out for bigger moves like todibo, slows us down also.

Villa I think maybe being a bit greedy on duran, on the one hand saying his attitude is terrible but on the other asking for 40m. The tactic of going in for other strikers to try and drive their price down hasn't worked. So if we want him we are going to have to pay a little bit more than what we would have wanted, I'd also imagine villa probably won't want him lining up agaisnt them first game of the season so would be happy to sit and wait until after then to do the deal. It's possible we will both be competing for European places next season so I wouldn't expect any favours from them.

Also deal is being agreed for Mazraoui who is better all round compared to awb and kwp looks like a cheaper deal also.

25 Jul 2024 12:00:27
I actually don't know what to believe anymore. Villa want over £35m, we won't budge over £30m? He wants a BIG CLUB not VILLA (who are in Champions league)?

25 Jul 2024 12:42:48
He said he was happy he was linked to big clubs don't think he was saying villa are not a big club.

Looks like we are now offering Orford. Which is crazy considering how much young homegrown players are going for at the moment. OK maybe 20m and Orford for Duran but If its to make up the 5m differnce in valuation of Duran is poor business on our part.

25 Jul 2024 08:00:35
Don't get excited everybody, because we've been here before and then deals fall flat on the backside, but apparently a deal is very close for DURAN DURAN at £35m? Hopefully once we get a striker the wheels might start turning to slot other players into Place. I'd suggest at £20m we get JOTA and AWB. We then just need to offload ZOUMA and Aguerd and SOUCEK and grab couple CB's, couple midfielders (yep am dreaming) but one can hope

24 Jul 2024 18:16:56
Here we go with another typical west ham move "West Ham ready £27m bid for Matias Soule" who has made up his mind wants to GO TO ROMA which our board are well aware of!

25 Jul 2024 06:17:55
Its how SULLIVAN works OSHEE! CHased this player for a few weeks who we were VERY Interested in and we probably bid £20m which theyn turned down and now because we hear he wants to go to ROMA, we decide to throw our hat in the ring to give us the old "Ah well everybody, we tried" BS line. As always, Sullivan has had all Summer, but he waits for the bargain. Not the player we want, the player he can get for his budget!

25 Jul 2024 08:35:17
I accept the player has indicated his preference is to join Roma, but I think there is a lot more going on here than meets the eye. There seems to be an intrinsic web of interest in a couple of players and I think Tim Steidten is being incredibly shrewd. Obviously this is all opinion, but hear me out.

Going by the papers West Ham are competing with Juventus for Jean-Clair Todibo and we are competing with Roma for Mathias Soule.


It is being reported that Juventus are looking to raise funds for further Summer transfer dealings by selling players and I can't shake the feeling that West Ham are misleading Juventus regarding Mathias Soule.

West Ham "outbid" Roma for Mathias Soule with unofficial bids and Juventus will push Soule towards us, rather than Roma. It has already been reported that it is Juventus' preference to sell to West Ham over Roma as they're a rival in the league and over Leicester as we are proposing more money. This delays Juventus getting funds from another side and therefore delays a move for Jean-Clair Todibo. Giving West Ham more chance to convince the player to join.

Roma are credited with an interest in Crysencio Summerville as well as Mathias Soule, but their preference is Soule. They aren't exploring a deal for Summerville at this stage because their focus is on Soule.

I feel like interest in Summerville from West Ham is more concrete than Soule, albeit I think our interest in Summerville is a ploy in some attempt to get Arsenal to lower their demands on Reiss Nelson.

I also can't shake the feeling that West Ham' preferred right back option is Aaron Wan Bissaka, and we are using Manchester United's interest in Mazraoui to knock down the price by also expressing interest in Mazraoui ourselves.

It is a bit like the Jhon Duran saga that seems to be dragging on, but I think Duran is undoubtedly our first choice and by expressing interest and pondering bids for other forwards, we are letting Aston Villa know we aren't going to be forced to meet their demands. Which I don't think is unreasonable if their demands are not reasonable.

Personally, I think if all of the above pays off, then we COULD potentially end up with Jean-Clair Todibo, Aaron Wan Bissaka, Reiss Nelson and Jhon Duran by the time our summer spending is over and when you consider we have signed Max Kilman already, that is five starting eleven players in one window.

Thoughts?

25 Jul 2024 14:51:23
Sounds like why we employed Steidten. Tbh I’d rather get Mazraoui than AWB, but we’ll just have to wait and see.

24 Jul 2024 16:36:16
WARNING LONG POST Thanks Daisy, WH are coming to a crucial period, Paqueta and Areola, should be going to Florida, completing our present squad, THIS is now what I am hearing, Loppy is watching these two games, Wolves and Palace with very serious intentions, players are around 75% fit now, and although very much friendlies, good markers, to see where we are, Palace in particular, are expected to do better than well next season, He took the job on with , full knowledge of our poor and ageing squad after Moyes, and with an agreed budget to spend, spearheaded by Steidten, the problem with Paqueta, is nobody's fault, and has left a massive hole in trading, WH had verbally agreed with City £85 m. Paid up front for Paqueta, this was to be ammunition. For big payments against 4/5 players, A directors loan, or club loan, may have to come into play, that on paper isn't a big deal, but it's not something that Sullivan wants to do, and that's understandable, , especially in the light that £50 m could go down the drain if the Brazilian gets banned, which could happen, Loppy is nervous that at present we can't compete, without many additional players, Andi it's suspected he might be right, he's aware. of fans expectations, and wants the best outcome, so there's going to be pressure coming back from him, if things don't work out, that's for sure

24 Jul 2024 17:51:25
And quite rightly with the current crop of players we will struggle. Look at the strides Palace and Villa have made and slowly but surely because of poor recruitment we are falling behind.

24 Jul 2024 18:19:05
Villa after their poor conference league semi final, and yet finishing fourth in league, realised immediately, that in champions league, they will be immediately eliminated, on those showings, large. Sort out needed, and indeed that’s what’s happening, good manager Emery, knows his business, let’s hope Loppy. Is the same, Palace nabbed a good manager and tactician in Glasner, virtual same team, Olise has gone BUT Kamada has come in on a free! Which WH. Should have contested, if they play as well as last season, they will trouble. Every team, that’s why our friendly with them Saturday week is important

24 Jul 2024 19:14:27
The Wolves and Palace games cannot be viewed as important bearing in mind we have no def mid ( Alvarez injured), no LW and no striker yet. Once they are in place then yes friendlies will be important. Welcome back Iron Mike AKA Joyful

24 Jul 2024 20:21:05
Gerry, I know Mike, not on very friendly basis, but chatty if I bump into him, he’s well known // as you are probably aware He, and his pals Ginger, and Luke, get lots of info particularly WH, Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle, but these days they keep their info to themselves, and wouldn’t come on here, so sorry mate, not up to Mikes standards, and have different. leads, I’m no ITK

25 Jul 2024 06:18:53
Keep up the good work JOYFUL

25 Jul 2024 15:02:59
Palace also finished the previous season like a train . Olise was their best player . Way ahead of EZE .he's going to take some replacing . Il be astonished if we don't finish ahead of them . Our clubs biggest barrier has been removed.

24 Jul 2024 12:02:06
Hi Daisy and all, WH without Paqueta sale have a limited budget, I Reckoned out. Somewhere between. 140 /175 m depending on sales, well Downes is Gone and they need Aguerd out and would absolutely drool if they could get shot of Ings and Zouma! Cornet can't find a buyer, WH would take 5/7 m to get shot of him, THIS is the issue. Loppy always insisted on Kilman to build the tram around, fair enough, adding Guilherme, equals 60 m in fees add on approx 35% to cover all costs , which is standard, your at 80 m, so at present WH have approx 60 m, that's got to be spread best way they can, they need another 5 players in reality, loans to buy, free agents MUST come into it, somewhere, , yes we ARE ALL GETTING IMPATIENT. But Paqueta Messed us up plans wise, WH are trying to get a pint out of a half pint pot, if they needed like others one or two players, then no problem, but they don't, THIS IS MOYES, inheritance, coupled with Paquetas foolishness causing maximum pain

24 Jul 2024 13:11:28
Great post Joyful which begs the question "Why then are we not investing in Wan Bissaka at £10m and JOTA SILVA for another £10m. Seems like no brainers, but we keep being linked with £30m for this player and £45m for this player when we all know fine well that the purse strings are tight.

I think the lack of patience is that WEST HAM are constantly talking. TOBIDO and DURAN talks have gone on for weeks seemingly and yet, nothing to show for it which is the usual WEST HAM window where we chase players all window and nothing gets done.

With TS on board (This super recruiter) I think (Or at least I know I did) we expected more results and yet, NADA!

Don;t get me wrong, I reckon we are trying hard, however, this sounds like the same old song where we offer ridiculously low bids for players we are never going to buy. Look at the lastest on SUMMERVILLE where we seemingly have offered £20m and leeds want at LEAST £35m and this is down to one person and we all know who that is.

So, I think frustration is born out of the thought that this window promised so much and as yet has delivered nothing but lots of TALK.

Yeah I know your going to have a go at me for whining, but, believe me when I say I am very optimistic, unfortunately not with SULLIVAN holding the purse strings

24 Jul 2024 14:59:53
Seems another player we were VERY INTERESTED in, Reiss Nelson, is now in talks with Leicester

24 Jul 2024 16:51:47
Sullivans haggling and strategy is what's slowing us down always has been.

Do wonder how long lopetegui and stiedten will put up with it.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone else comes in for Duran he gets his head turned and then we have to pay
more or lose out completely.

24 Jul 2024 17:18:32
Hi Al, May be something to do with it but not the controlling factor in play, unfortunately

24 Jul 2024 18:12:52
Apparently we are no closer to a deal with villa for Duran now than we were 2 weeks ago despite continual talks. And you can bet all the low ball bidding, it's all being controlled by our beloved leader sullivan

24 Jul 2024 10:34:11
Ugly rumour that Liverpool are upping their interest in Kudus and the player might be receptive to a move there since Heitinga is now a Liverpool coach. That would be a disaster.

24 Jul 2024 11:41:33
Oh no, that's the last thing we want, especially to Liverpool. Lots os TALKS are ongoing for multiple targets seemingly. Leeds want in excess of £35m for Summerville and apparently we've offered £20m! Only WEST HAM would think they can get a £35m player for £20m!

24 Jul 2024 15:00:33
It was only a matter of time and from what I hear Zouma will soon be gone also

24 Jul 2024 09:56:44
WH, are definitely very much on this full back from Bayern. mazraoui, 20 m euro is asked, Germans have agreed to sell, its WH calll, ?they are engaged on this, as we speak, in the background Hermoso CB still a free agent, is attracting WH, wages asked are the problem, that's why Villa, have not snared him, but he's quality, Talking of quality, HUIJSEN, the 19 year old C B Of Juve, mentioned before, is now being chased by Bournemouth, their not fools this kid will be a player, WH should be on him like glue, he'd be straight into first team with us

24 Jul 2024 10:25:32
Hey Joyful, thanks for your regular updates. It seems that West ham are always all over players until it actually comes down to the financial side and that's when things go belly up.

Instead being very much on this full back, how about they do some negotiating with player and club and make a bid.

Far too much talking continually and not enough action

24 Jul 2024 11:28:20
I also hear that the Agents of Jonathon David are using something illegal when demanding a third of the transfer fee as agents fees ie £10m agent fees? This has to be a joke somewhere

24 Jul 2024 08:56:08
Despite WEEKS (WEEKS? So if we can't agree why the F_CK have we not moved on to other targets, when will we learn) of transfer negotiations with ASTON VILLA, the two sides cannot agree on a valuation for JOHN DURAN, with West Ham unwilling to come anywhere close to the £35m requested!

24 Jul 2024 09:40:55
Personally I think we waste too much time every window like this. Move on to another player who's club are willing to play ball and who wants tp join us .

We do this every window

24 Jul 2024 10:30:25
Totally agree. i'm hardly a hard nosed negotiator but a situation like this where you are miles apart you just walk away and look at others. The law of ‘treat them mean, keep them keen’ then kicks in and the seller may see sense. Or from the other prospective if you really think this guy is the real deal then pay more than you may have been prepared to. Although having said all that a sell on clause of 40% or even 20% is ridiculous so maybe just walk away and persue others…