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01 Aug 2019 11:11:53
According to Sky American defender Aaron Long is back on the radar played 11 times for the USA and currently at New York at approx £4 maybe worth a punt but I did post about a month ago he might not be up to the PL. Correctly there appears to be a Work Permit problem

Does this mean Winston may have to retire and Oggy is on his way.

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01 Aug 2019 11:47:53
Aaron Long would be nothing more than a back up and that’s IF he was able to get a work permit.

I don’t see us letting both Ogbonna and Reid go, so if Reid is retiring then Ogbonna is going no where. Same can be said if Ogbonna is sold I see Reid staying.

01 Aug 2019 13:09:04
id like to ask what ED and supporter think of Read now.
Before his injury i thought he was great but i havnt seen him this year, is his injury problems behind him and how is he performing.

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen him since his injury and I think Diop and Balbuena have the places nailed down.}

01 Aug 2019 21:19:54
Before the injury he lost a lot of pace can’t sell him till he proves his fitness may need a loan to a championship side to get game him game.

30 Jul 2019 18:48:15
Ed. any news on any potential signings? Or any talks or even rumours? Not much happening at the moment. or are we done with the transfers?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing new dave but I am travelling and busy right now.}

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31 Jul 2019 09:03:19
Ed a defensive midfielder with a physical presence is definitely needed a injury to Rice would put us in massive trouble.

{Ed002's Note - back up will not be the first priority.}

31 Jul 2019 19:26:01
Ed I mean a defensive midfielder to start with Rice or we are going to get over run Rice needs help big time I really hope we have some money left to get some one.

31 Jul 2019 21:32:40
Times running out. I hope we sign someone soon. but looks unlikely.

01 Aug 2019 11:41:48
Based on preseason, I get the impression Pellegrini is looking at playing 4-1-4-1 this season

Yesterday Rice put in a monumental shift for 60 odd minutes, didn’t play bad, but he was over run.

I think playing Wilshere, Lanzini, Fornals and Anderson in front of Rice is going to give us plenty of attacking threat, but seriously lacking defensively.

Just my opinion though.

01 Aug 2019 13:39:34
I agree DIE 4, I love the technical play those 4 can do when we have the ball, but when they lose it Rice is our only shield, and can get overrun. I like JW a lot, but I still don't think he is a deep lying playmaker, or a traditional CM. Like Fornals, he plays best in the transition area behind the opposition midfield line and behind a striker, occasionally coming BACK to collect the ball, rather than starting off deep.
Of the players in our squad, i'd play Snodgrass alongside Dec, or Noble. Snods is far more aggressive in the centre than Jack, and will be better at supporting Dec in breaking up opposition attacks. I know it's not Snods' natural position, but he has all the attributes to play there, and we have plenty of wingers with pace where he usually plays. Nobes is also good, but just lacks the legs for me, and Dec also isn't the quickest.
I have to put in a word for Sanchez, as I have previously said that he was not good enough or risky backup at DM. But yesterday I thought he looked very capable in the DM role. I just hope he can stay fit this season.

28 Jul 2019 05:08:35
Reading online Hugill off to QPR. for a season long loan.

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28 Jul 2019 10:23:10
And I think we’ll still be paying some of his wages!

29 Jul 2019 00:40:45
Hopefully he does well as obviously we couldn’t find anyone who wanted to buy him. If we could have sold him it would have been better.

29 Jul 2019 14:31:43
No doubt any interest would have been worth peanuts at least this way he has the chance to play well and increase value or prove further we were sold a lemon.

22 Jul 2019 17:20:10
Anyone else think the time might be right to sell Lanzini as he is in the last year of his contract and we have a lot of talent in his position?

Use the funds to strengthen at the back and maybe a good back-up striker?

{Ed002's Note - The issue has to be fitness. Maybe a one year extension to keep value and then see how the season goes.}

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22 Jul 2019 17:53:00
I think we may have seen the best of Lanzini. If we could get £15m ish then I’d sell. He looks incredibly leggy now.

22 Jul 2019 17:59:15
Not me. I’m a real fan. I’d love to see him him up with Wilshere and Fornals.

22 Jul 2019 18:33:18
*team up.

22 Jul 2019 19:54:35
You can´t play Fornals, Wilshere and Lanzini in the same team!

22 Jul 2019 20:00:57
Agree with BillProsser/ Markwhu, players rarely come back after such a serious injury to the standard they were before, have a feeling Yarmalenko may be a passenger as well? if somebody came in with £15m offer, i’d Let him go, but can’t see that offer happening? ⚒⚒.

22 Jul 2019 20:35:13
Alan shearer did!

22 Jul 2019 20:53:57
I would think Pel. would give him 5-6 games before thinking about Lanzini leaveing at his best he was up their with the best, i would give him a chance to get match fit before makeing any decision on a player worth a lot more than 15 mil before his injury. Its the same with Wiltshire a lot of fans wanted him gone but let's see how they both work out.
Also i would take a chance on A. Iwobi from Arsenal at 21 he's the right age to improve has a lot of Prem. exp. can only get better.

23 Jul 2019 07:32:16
Guyser, it’s easy to give examples of players that have overcome bad injuries, also just as easy to so the same with those that haven’t overcome them! I am not saying write Lanzini off, I said Rarely do players come back as good or consistent to previous standards, how many examples have we already had at WH, you don’t need me to name them! It’s too early at the moment to criticise even The supposedly fit players when it’s pre season, but a lot so much comes down to personality and dedication overcoming serious injury, also how long they have left on their contracts to have a prolonged holiday!

23 Jul 2019 08:44:28
Iwobi would be a good buy. I mentioned him some time back. When he played for Arsenal against us, he and Laccazette caused us problems. Iwobi’s final ball is poor, but his national side play him down the middle. I believe Arsenal would sell for £20m, and at his age he’d be a good buy. Plus he’s never injured.

23 Jul 2019 09:51:49
Whilst Lanzini was clearly rusty when he came back last season, I still saw good pace, control, vision and, most importantly, full commitment to the challenge of the tackle.

Similarly, there is nothing tentative about Wilshere’s pre-season performances.

So far, Yarmolenko’s recovery seems the most questionable.

As has been suggested above, if we’re top heavy with attacking midfielders, and/ or need to generate cash to buy in where we are lightweight, I would sell Yarmolenko well before Lanzini.

I also disagree that Fornals, Lanzini and Wilshere can’t play in the same team. If you look at Wilshere’s career stats, he has often played very deep and there was some discussion last year of of him being the ideal player to support Rice in defensive/ central mid.

23 Jul 2019 11:09:20
In my opinion Lanzini is our most creative player hopefully after a full preseason he will be back to his best playing in the hole behind Haller can't believe some fans want to sell him give a years extension then hopefully a long term contract on the money he deserves next summer.

23 Jul 2019 14:23:14
I find Lanzini frustrating, clearly he has talent but fails to deliver on a consistent basis!

Payet elevated his game and of course along with others as well in that team!

I think he tries to mimic is international team mate Messi in trying to dribble all the time which unfortunately more often than not he comes up short on!

23 Jul 2019 18:51:47
Some good points Costa, payet until the strike fiasco was possibly if not the best then certainly one of the best players I have seen in a whu shirt . Lanzini is quality but can get bullied off the ball . As for messi? Yes he plays with world class stars but even he doesn't always produce, let's see what a fit lanzini can do :)

23 Jul 2019 22:18:59
Lanzini is worth considerably more £15 million that's what you pay for decent championship players he's an ARGENTINIAN international for £30 to 40mill is right its going to take him time to get confidence that the ACL is going to hold up he would havebroken down by now if it wasnt going to hold up. COYI.

25 Jul 2019 10:46:18
Why would we want to sell Lanzini, at his best he is at least on a par with Erickson and Mata for example
Sure we seem to be stacked with creative midfielders but injuries and drops in form mean we can’t have enough .
Now we have bought a classy striker let’s make sure that he isn’t starved of decent service .
Last season when he returned was admittedly not the Lanzini we have become accustomed to, but he was out for a long time and it’s difficult to pick up where he was before the injury when only featuring in the back end of the season.
Hopefully a proper pre season will see him back to his creative best . I certainly wouldn’t give up on him .

25 Jul 2019 11:13:58
Problem is if he has a good season we could lose him for nothing next summer and we need funds now to strengthen in defence and need another striker.

25 Jul 2019 11:16:21
Personally, I’d prefer Mata or Erickson.

25 Jul 2019 16:54:57
Lanzini, Fornals and Anderson are the three Pellegrini will use behind Heller, and probably Rice and Noble/ Medel sitting behind. That is a quality set up, plenty of creativity there, to break open those packed defences that teams often play. From what I saw first half of Lanzini against Man Cty in the Asia Trophy, he has plenty to offer, maybe not at his peak yet but I think he will get there come the start of the season. Yarmalenko, Antonio, Snodgrass and Wilshire (who looks in great form could well start against Man Cty) provide quality back up.

26 Jul 2019 06:43:45
Lanzini has a 2 year extension option to the club's benefit I believe which he is currently challenging the legal veracity of.

26 Jul 2019 16:54:46
Stubbo, hmmm sounds ominous if he may be challenging it, why I wonder would he do that unless he wants away? Looking for a big money payoff maybe before his opportunities start running out? ⚒⚒⚒⚒.

27 Jul 2019 11:10:42
Pretty sure its over money from what I recall.

Think the rumour was the extension takes him up to 70k per week automatically from the 40k odd he's on, and he's obviously seen wages at the club spiral since signing that deal so believes should be getting more.

27 Jul 2019 13:54:22
If he’s going up to £70k, which, according to reports, is what we are paying Haller - that’s got to be plenty. Of the two who is likely to get more playing time this year?

Bearing in mind, admittedly through no fault of his own, he has basically just had a year on the sidelines, he needs to prove himself.

I’m a real fan of his, but, naive as it sounds, I feel he owes us at the moment.

31 Jul 2019 13:49:16
Medical advice after acl is approx 80% chance of same fitness as before or even better. So fingers crossed.

21 Jul 2019 01:56:52
SKY are reporting we've been offered Aaron Ling from MLS. Anyone heard of him.

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21 Jul 2019 11:09:20
Morning Mark think it's Aaron Long a 26 year old defender playing with the New York redbulls he appears to have been around a bit and has played 76 games for the Red Bulls

Personally would have thought on his experience he wouldn't be up to PL standard but who knows.

22 Jul 2019 00:48:23
Looked him up - looks good but more importantly, wonder who is leaving? Know reid was considering retiring not that long ago.

22 Jul 2019 06:50:25
I wouldn’t be disappointed to see both Reid and Ogbonna leave.

In the last couple of friendlies I’ve also noticed Declan Rice has been used as a central defender, perhaps he is being looked at as a “back up” choice to cover Diop and Balbuena with another defensive midfielder sitting in while he covers.

22 Jul 2019 12:27:20
@die-4, I just posted something similar on the banter page. I think Reid and Oggy are both past it.

Pulgar I believe would be perfect for us him and Rice would make a solid partnership. Ball winner with a great range of passing. Wonder if there is any genuine interest in him? Like you say would also three up Rice to cover CB we wouldn't miss him as much in the middle if we had pulgar as opposed to just Noble and Sanchez as DMs.

22 Jul 2019 16:49:52
Long is no where near good enough for our squad. Even if its just adding depth. Would much rather us try to develop youth at the back or spend elsewhere. 100% not worth it.

22 Jul 2019 16:56:27
The talk around Reece Oxford seems to have died down as well. I saw somewhere that maybe he had turned himself around, but this is all guesswork at this stage. I am not a fan of moving your best players around just because they are good enough in other positions. For me, your best players have to specialise in their positions because that is where they will be better than the opposition. Phil Jones is a classic example, he was a great CB as a young kid, but at Man Utd he player more positions than John O'Shea, and not he is average at a few positions rather than great at one.
Interesting that we have not seen Cresswell, Oxford, Holland or Xande Silva in pre-season much.

Oggy did ok last year, but that's all he is, OK.
Reid is on a long contract still, and if he could come back to where he was that would be great. But there are still questions on whether he can play MP's style of game. I'd love him back. Dec would be our best 3rd option at CB still, but that leaves a huge hole at DM where we have nobody who can be even half as good as him.

Pulgar would be a great addition to play as backup or alongside Dec. We NEED a solid player here because if Dec is injured then we really will struggle based on what iv seen of Sanchez. Sanchez is coming back from a very bad injury now, so he might not even be as good as he was before he came to us, and we don't even know what level that was, so it is a risky gamble. Nobes is too slow Personally I am really interested to see where he fits Fornals in, because he looks like a player that plays higher up (like Wilshere and Lanzini) when we need someone with legs next to Dec to give us a balance in CM. I don't know him well enough though, so he may be the answer. Pulgar would be a decent signing for me.

23 Jul 2019 09:04:58
Xande Silva is recovering from a serious illness.

19 Jul 2019 19:46:05
Rumours about Pulgar. He would be a great replacement for Obiang at little cost.

Obiang: £9m
Pulgar €12m release clause.

Net spend about £2m.

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19 Jul 2019 23:24:36
Depends on signing on fees etc. so probably a bit more but would be an upgrade.

20 Jul 2019 10:19:14
Agreed. I’ve seen Ed002’s comprehensive list of transfer costs, but I don’t see any way to incorporate them (or make much sense of them! ) when discussing players moving.

It would still seem an excellent transfer move to sell Obiang and replace him by triggering Pulgar’s release clause.

20 Jul 2019 14:49:46
One thing that is obviously clear is our back up players are no way near good enough if we get our usual injuries were screwed net spend of 32 million so far and looking like freebies or loans where's all the money gone with all the players sold and their wages saved same old Sullivan and Gold milking the club dry.

25 Jul 2019 10:32:43
I agree we carry too many players that are not of the standard required if we are to push into the higher positions in the League.
Sanchez Is appalling, Ogbonna is a liability, The Striker we bought from Preston has never been up to it (£10M thrown away ) , Cullen isn’t going to make the grade, Reece Oxford isn’t doing it, Hernandez isn’t scoring weight of goals and only in the box when he does score, he is past his best, left back is a problem and one of the two should go and a decent full back brought In.
Reid needs to prove he can stay fit but deserves the chance
We should get rid of the lot they won’t ever be 1st X1 players and bench warming at best is not going to help them . We should get a fee for most of them which we can spend on decent squad players and buy some quality youths to develop.
We hold on to youths for too long when it’s clear they are never going to be of Premier League standard. What was a flood of top youth players is now a trickle . We should be trying to buy promising 14, yr olds and up if we haven’t got our own . If they are any good then they should progress to the squad and bench at 16 . Other clubs are very aggressive in their youth recruitment we should be trying to bring talent in .
Obiang has gone, in fairness he wasn’t getting much game time and won’t be missed too much, in fact the £8M is more valuable if used for purchases.

17 Jul 2019 22:34:51
Rumour has it we have placed a bid for an African striker? I know a certain Colombian striker who plys his trade in Scotland I'd like to see pull on the claret and blue shirt! Not very disciplined but I'm sure pellegrini can calm him down! How many goals would he have scored with out those bans, I know it's scottish football but you still got to score

COYI.

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18 Jul 2019 10:03:06
Morelos for being quite small and quick definitely makes his presence known I think he would be a big hit with the fans. I watched his highlights 3 minute video for all 30 goals and then a 17 minute video for all his cards to be fair a lot of his cards and sending offs were soft and poor decisions a lot of the decisions would rule in his favour with VAR. Just seems there was abit of an agenda with him. I'd definitely take a chance on him his fight and graft would endear him to the fans and can clearly finish He would be good cover and or a partner for haller that could be a fierce combination.

18 Jul 2019 11:41:21
Bob/ Iron, strongly agree with both, I love a terrier on the field, especially when they can score as well, as you say what a combination if he could be calmed down somewhat, I would have him as another addition double quick👍Get him if possible⚒⚒⚒COYI.

18 Jul 2019 13:36:26
Apparently Ex has said something about him being available for £4m or £5m. I’m not sure I understand why when Gerrard valued him at £20m.

There are also reports that he is an ar*ehole in the dressing room.

18 Jul 2019 14:06:27
I quite like Morellos. Was shocked Ex said he could be got for 4/ 5m.
The African striker I believe is Ben Yedder, could be Marega too I suppose but know we were interested a couple of years ago.

18 Jul 2019 16:55:56
I think you’re right about Ben Yedder. Good player, not yet over the hill, but he would still cost a few bob.

19 Jul 2019 06:39:07
we have done gt business so far i'm sure Pel. has his eye on other players he wants tu bring in.
As it says on a dollar bill, IN GOD WE TRUST
On our shirts it should read. IN PEL WE TRUST.

19 Jul 2019 08:42:21
If it is Morellos we may be linked with, Rangers will now up their fee after the hat trick on Thursday even though it was against a Pub team! ⚒⚒⚒.

19 Jul 2019 09:57:07
We have no cash left to spend according to C&H. I can see a couple of loans coming in, or maybe the odd free.

19 Jul 2019 10:54:22
African player you mention may be Youssef en-nesyri. Think exwhu employee mentioned him or seen a news article. 4-5m seems low maybe as upfront payment then lots of add ons. If we make up the majority of the valuation with performance based add ons that would suit us nicely the better he performs the more rangers get and less risk for us.

I don't believe the c&h article about us having nothing left. If the right deals become available we will find the money.

We might still get a decent amount for obiang but based on what I've seen I'd feel more confident of him coming on rather than Sanchez he never seems to no what's behind him. That cost us points last season when he did play and seeing the same in preseason now doesn't fill me with confidence.

Business not done yet the fact we are being linked to players early to mid twenties is refreshing bodes well for the future makes a lot more sense than how we have conducted business in the past.

19 Jul 2019 15:24:51
IronAl, just saw your comment and looked him up - you may be on to something! Not so sure he is worth it though? He does fit the bill though, player Husillos knows and scored 1/ 3 in a decent European league.
Morellos- he is rated quite low because (sorry to say it) the Scottish League is not highly rated. Despite scoring 30+ goals last season, he is still only valued at £2.7m on transfermarkt. That being said, like him as a player, is young and could do a job for us. I reckon 5-10m would get him.
I too don't believe the 'no money left nonsense' we had the same last year after Diop/ Anderson and then bought Balbuena, Fabianski, Yarmolenko and Sanchez (maybe forget the last one! ) I believe in total we signed just shy of 30m worth of new players after we *had no money* Will be the same this year - sign two strikers for about 20m total.

19 Jul 2019 18:52:07
Agree Glen re the no money left, standard business talk, very sensible, you don’t want to flaunt “money’s no object”👍 if we assumed we maybe have £15m plus a little more in reserve, we can surely get at least one maybe two in that are half decent as backups? I could think of several but of course it’s who wants to come, it’s who is available, very difficult I know, but if we get nobody else, we should still be able to compete with what we have, it won’t be a catastrophe? ⚒⚒⚒⚒.

20 Jul 2019 08:43:16
Yes, agree 100%
Reckon one signing and one free/ loan striker if we shift Chicharito.
Dont really see what else we need? Good squad, depth in every position if we get a couple of strikers in.

25 Jul 2019 09:50:27
Morellos would be a great signing . He is aggressive scores plenty of goals and will be relatively cheap because playing in Scottish Pub League. I agree his disciplinary record isn’t great but I also think he is a marked man up there. We did well when signing a nutter from North of the Border ( via Sheffield Wed ) , and whilst he hasn’t PdiCs skills he finds the back of the net more often .
We can’t lose much if we need to move him on, and his wages aren’t likely to break the bank . But I think he will do ok, he can’t be any worse than the dross we have seen masquerading as strikers of late . We paid £10M for the one we bought from Preston who has managed 3 appearances and no goals which would make a fee of £20M if we had to pay it seem a steal by comparison . We certainly won’t need to pay him the money we paid Carroll to be constantly injured or I would guess the blank firing Zaza who Inter tried to sell us .
He must be a better option than Llorente who only got games for Tott because he was bad enough to be content bench warming when Kane was able to play.

17 Jul 2019 20:02:43
I think Sanchez and ogbonna showed against city we gave more work to do on transfer front. Sell them both.

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25 Jul 2019 09:14:58
Be lucky to sell Sanchez, if we give him away and save his wages we can count ourselves lucky . He should never get near the squad he is really crap unbelievable he gets in the Colombian National side .
Ogbonna has been a liability for a couple of years now, we were so short of centre halves he got a number of games but if we have any ambition then we won’t see him again . We should get a small fee for him, but he has always tried it’s just that it’s not that good, lose his wages and give him a free if necessary .

17 Jul 2019 13:13:20
Haller has signed official photo on WHU website and C&H.

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17 Jul 2019 13:31:11
Welcome Haller!

In Pelle we believe. Trust the process!

17 Jul 2019 14:11:33
Omg I nearly cried when I saw Haller with the shirt! Sorry to appear soft guys but this is a quality signing and a real sign of intent. I really think we could have a fantastic season!

17 Jul 2019 14:42:00
Calm down Dabber, you might make us all emotional🤣😂 ⚒⚒⚒.

17 Jul 2019 17:29:04
Cheers Chelms, was just having a moment 🤣😂👍.

17 Jul 2019 18:48:26
I first saw it when they revealed the 3rd kit along with the dance, been smiling all day since . If anyone hasn't seen the video it's worth the watch.

17 Jul 2019 10:17:36
Does anybody know what is the hold up on this Haller deal?, by all account he passed a medical yesterday and have had no news of a Press Conference or anything on this. I know I probably being impatient but I do get worried when it comes to us and major transfers.

I thought if he went for a medical everything is sorted, unless i'm wrong. any update Ed 002 please?

{Ed002's Note - Paperwork has to be done, international clearance applied for and obtained, etc.. There is no hold up.}

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17 Jul 2019 13:19:05
Haller has appeared on the video for our new third kit!

17 Jul 2019 11:29:33
Thanks Ed002, at least you didn't say there is a hiccup as another team has bid for the player.

 


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