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06 Aug 2019 10:56:37
Rumours on twittter are that Cardoso has passed his medical/ ready to be announced.
Ascacibar 22 year old DM is heavily rumoured as well as Ajeti a swiss striker who has a 1/ 2 goal rate.
All are young and hungry. There has been a suggestion amongst twitter/ agents accounts that the 'we have no money left' line is a little bit of a smokescreen too. Exciting times ahead?

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06 Aug 2019 13:08:39
I really hope so!

06 Aug 2019 17:57:38
Don't wait up.

06 Aug 2019 22:04:58
Haha, Gold has been joking all day on twitter the same.

07 Aug 2019 14:09:10
Ascacibar not looking likely according to twitter, shame as we could do with a spare CDM (not Sanchez)

07 Aug 2019 22:59:18
It doesn't suprised me when another £10 mill is suddenly made available.

05 Aug 2019 22:16:55
I see Adrián has signed for Liverpool. It really surprises me that we let him go and signed Roberto as a replacement. What I have seen on Roberto so far leaves me less than impressed. Adrián made the occasional clanger but Roberto looks like he’s liable to make a mistake every other game. Go figure?

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05 Aug 2019 23:24:14
Did I read right €2.75 mill or €27.5 million what a steal if he signs good enough NOW for 1st team better than CRESSWELL by a country mile I'd be starting with JOHNSON or GCARDSO he can also play C/ B has a great left foot and can find a killer pass and crosses are great whoever sorted that deal can now take their mask off because we stole him at that price what a deal. COYI.

06 Aug 2019 01:55:22
Adrián did not want to number 2 goalie and wanted to return to Spain he has made his position clear over last 2 years. No teams were prepared to pay him anything like he was getting at west ham 50k a week he was getting offers of 15-20k a week.

06 Aug 2019 10:05:47
Cardoso has passed his medical apparently, lad is a proper steal - watched the u21 championships and he was one of the stars.
This looks like WH are finally pursuing the policy I have wanted for years, buy talent young *for cheap* at least when they do go, we get a highly inflated fee for them.

06 Aug 2019 11:35:51
But he will be number 2 keeper at Liverpool too right? So nothing has changed there. I’m sure that Liverpool would have paid the £50k per week. At West Ham he was on £50k per week anyway I’m sure, and my understanding was he wanted the same money.

06 Aug 2019 15:12:09
Yes but Spanish sides were only offering 15/ 20 k.

06 Aug 2019 16:26:42
What about the signing on fee Adrian would have also got, must have been an influence😂£😂Premiership experience although erratic at times
decent number 2 for Klopp👍👍.

06 Aug 2019 18:05:21
Good point about signing on fee Chelmsford👍
I think it just irks me that he left and we replace him with Roberto who’s been crap so far. I liked Adrian. I wish him well.

06 Aug 2019 20:01:54
COYI164, we are reading off the same sheet mate, what a shame, but money talks at that age especially, that’s his last big pay day so at 32 not knowing what’s in front of him, good luck Ad, really wish him well👍👍⚒⚒⚒.

06 Aug 2019 22:06:34
Think it is his last chance to win something + he can do a Rob Green if they win Champs League again :-)

04 Aug 2019 23:29:56
Unnamed young Portuguese CB being linked with us?

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05 Aug 2019 12:21:01
Goncalo Cardoso, 18, highly rated youngster who's been on the radars of Inter, Lazio, Benfica and even Watford. He only made his top division debut in October but has easily established himself in the Boa Vista squad. Could be a really shrewd signing this one.

05 Aug 2019 17:20:00
i think investing in youth is a gamble but a gamble worth takeing. Ok it could be that he doesn't make it but look how many Premiership clubs have paid 25+ mil. for strikers thet don't make it. My vote is go for him.

05 Aug 2019 18:10:57
He could turn out to be another Rice.

05 Aug 2019 19:27:36
Albian ajeti.

06 Aug 2019 10:07:19
I hope we get Albian - he is another good, young player. Don't know how he will do in the prem but is worth a punt.

07 Aug 2019 23:04:43
I'd rather that JOHN than investing in washed up 33 year olds which we always did before i.e ARBELOA EVRA, and many more CARDOSA cost apparently £2.75 mill that's the sort of gamble I like. COYI.

02 Aug 2019 07:55:07
We must have some cash left with all the out goings
Anyone know were we stand
Like a striker defender and dm
I'm loving the way thinks have changed since MP has taken over tho.

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02 Aug 2019 12:10:23
You would think we can only play 3 Of the fair players against the better teams so we definitely need a defensive midfielder with a physical presence and pace to help Rice otherwise we will get overrun big time, and we need a back up front man in the Haller mould then we're ready to go.

02 Aug 2019 18:46:38
If if if a player comes along either cf or CB without stupid wage demands aking with sky high signing on fees ( I am alluding to free agents ) then we may still get a player or two if not then it might be pull up the drawbridge and we go with what he have . I've a feeling that the pot for this window is about spent.

02 Aug 2019 21:07:50
Anybody else concerned that we have not
strengthened our defence or holding midfield
area as last season we got over run in both
these areas.
Our full backs are not great, Diop and Balbuenna
have been suspect on occasions, rice can’t
hold the midfield on own, Sanchez is poor,
noble is too slow .
I’m actually quite concerned for our season.

03 Aug 2019 01:04:40
Arp, not really. It is what it is, we are going for attack and following the Arsenal/ Liverpool way that was copied off us anyway. I really don't think we will hit top six but if we can play exciting footy, maybe have a cup run etc we will have set yourself for next year.
Just remember 2022 is the year the owners can sell - if we get the right buyers will be amazing but credit to the Dave's and finally getting a top quality manager in and leaving transfers to Husillos. Will take 3/ 4 years (whoever owns us) to be with any shout of regular top 6. Our straight rivals at the moment are everton, wolves and Leicester. Unfortunately we blew our load last year when this year Chelsea/ man utd are looking weak :- (.

03 Aug 2019 08:32:47
I understand what your saying glen, however
I don’t think we are clinical enough to outscore
our opponents as our defence is too weak.

03 Aug 2019 17:15:16
I agree with arp. LB and DM especially are positions we desperately need to strengthen, otherwise clean sheets are going to be few and far between for us this season.

03 Aug 2019 18:41:47
Defence is a big concern and something we must be looking at because we are poor especially down our left.

03 Aug 2019 18:43:53
Noble has never had pace, he reads the game, therefore he can be a move in front of the opposition. Sanchez struggles at Villa.

I feel Noble could play just in front of our centre backs.

Who will take penalties if Noble does not play?

03 Aug 2019 19:36:53
Noble always gives away cheap free kick just out side the edge of the box with late tackles.

04 Aug 2019 11:41:50
Haller took the penalties at Eintracht.

04 Aug 2019 20:35:43
Hiya ARP you ate spot on mate NOBLE SNODGRASS are far too slow at closing down opposition players in midfield and we get picked apart as they have far too much time to look up a few times before there's any sign of a challenge we are definitely 1 short in C/ DM and at the back if which we will get injurys as I hate players playing out of position. COYI.

06 Aug 2019 10:20:14
Get what everyone is saying *but* Wilshere can play DM at a push (although that is like relying on glass to stop a bullet)
The new signing Cardoso I have a feeling could be converted to a DCM.

01 Aug 2019 11:11:53
According to Sky American defender Aaron Long is back on the radar played 11 times for the USA and currently at New York at approx £4 maybe worth a punt but I did post about a month ago he might not be up to the PL. Correctly there appears to be a Work Permit problem

Does this mean Winston may have to retire and Oggy is on his way.

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01 Aug 2019 11:47:53
Aaron Long would be nothing more than a back up and that’s IF he was able to get a work permit.

I don’t see us letting both Ogbonna and Reid go, so if Reid is retiring then Ogbonna is going no where. Same can be said if Ogbonna is sold I see Reid staying.

01 Aug 2019 13:09:04
id like to ask what ED and supporter think of Read now.
Before his injury i thought he was great but i havnt seen him this year, is his injury problems behind him and how is he performing.

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen him since his injury and I think Diop and Balbuena have the places nailed down.}

01 Aug 2019 21:19:54
Before the injury he lost a lot of pace can’t sell him till he proves his fitness may need a loan to a championship side to get game him game.

30 Jul 2019 18:48:15
Ed. any news on any potential signings? Or any talks or even rumours? Not much happening at the moment. or are we done with the transfers?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing new dave but I am travelling and busy right now.}

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31 Jul 2019 09:03:19
Ed a defensive midfielder with a physical presence is definitely needed a injury to Rice would put us in massive trouble.

{Ed002's Note - back up will not be the first priority.}

31 Jul 2019 19:26:01
Ed I mean a defensive midfielder to start with Rice or we are going to get over run Rice needs help big time I really hope we have some money left to get some one.

31 Jul 2019 21:32:40
Times running out. I hope we sign someone soon. but looks unlikely.

01 Aug 2019 11:41:48
Based on preseason, I get the impression Pellegrini is looking at playing 4-1-4-1 this season

Yesterday Rice put in a monumental shift for 60 odd minutes, didn’t play bad, but he was over run.

I think playing Wilshere, Lanzini, Fornals and Anderson in front of Rice is going to give us plenty of attacking threat, but seriously lacking defensively.

Just my opinion though.

01 Aug 2019 13:39:34
I agree DIE 4, I love the technical play those 4 can do when we have the ball, but when they lose it Rice is our only shield, and can get overrun. I like JW a lot, but I still don't think he is a deep lying playmaker, or a traditional CM. Like Fornals, he plays best in the transition area behind the opposition midfield line and behind a striker, occasionally coming BACK to collect the ball, rather than starting off deep.
Of the players in our squad, i'd play Snodgrass alongside Dec, or Noble. Snods is far more aggressive in the centre than Jack, and will be better at supporting Dec in breaking up opposition attacks. I know it's not Snods' natural position, but he has all the attributes to play there, and we have plenty of wingers with pace where he usually plays. Nobes is also good, but just lacks the legs for me, and Dec also isn't the quickest.
I have to put in a word for Sanchez, as I have previously said that he was not good enough or risky backup at DM. But yesterday I thought he looked very capable in the DM role. I just hope he can stay fit this season.

28 Jul 2019 05:08:35
Reading online Hugill off to QPR. for a season long loan.

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28 Jul 2019 10:23:10
And I think we’ll still be paying some of his wages!

29 Jul 2019 00:40:45
Hopefully he does well as obviously we couldn’t find anyone who wanted to buy him. If we could have sold him it would have been better.

29 Jul 2019 14:31:43
No doubt any interest would have been worth peanuts at least this way he has the chance to play well and increase value or prove further we were sold a lemon.

22 Jul 2019 17:20:10
Anyone else think the time might be right to sell Lanzini as he is in the last year of his contract and we have a lot of talent in his position?

Use the funds to strengthen at the back and maybe a good back-up striker?

{Ed002's Note - The issue has to be fitness. Maybe a one year extension to keep value and then see how the season goes.}

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22 Jul 2019 17:53:00
I think we may have seen the best of Lanzini. If we could get £15m ish then I’d sell. He looks incredibly leggy now.

22 Jul 2019 17:59:15
Not me. I’m a real fan. I’d love to see him him up with Wilshere and Fornals.

22 Jul 2019 18:33:18
*team up.

22 Jul 2019 19:54:35
You can´t play Fornals, Wilshere and Lanzini in the same team!

22 Jul 2019 20:00:57
Agree with BillProsser/ Markwhu, players rarely come back after such a serious injury to the standard they were before, have a feeling Yarmalenko may be a passenger as well? if somebody came in with £15m offer, i’d Let him go, but can’t see that offer happening? ⚒⚒.

22 Jul 2019 20:35:13
Alan shearer did!

22 Jul 2019 20:53:57
I would think Pel. would give him 5-6 games before thinking about Lanzini leaveing at his best he was up their with the best, i would give him a chance to get match fit before makeing any decision on a player worth a lot more than 15 mil before his injury. Its the same with Wiltshire a lot of fans wanted him gone but let's see how they both work out.
Also i would take a chance on A. Iwobi from Arsenal at 21 he's the right age to improve has a lot of Prem. exp. can only get better.

23 Jul 2019 07:32:16
Guyser, it’s easy to give examples of players that have overcome bad injuries, also just as easy to so the same with those that haven’t overcome them! I am not saying write Lanzini off, I said Rarely do players come back as good or consistent to previous standards, how many examples have we already had at WH, you don’t need me to name them! It’s too early at the moment to criticise even The supposedly fit players when it’s pre season, but a lot so much comes down to personality and dedication overcoming serious injury, also how long they have left on their contracts to have a prolonged holiday!

23 Jul 2019 08:44:28
Iwobi would be a good buy. I mentioned him some time back. When he played for Arsenal against us, he and Laccazette caused us problems. Iwobi’s final ball is poor, but his national side play him down the middle. I believe Arsenal would sell for £20m, and at his age he’d be a good buy. Plus he’s never injured.

23 Jul 2019 09:51:49
Whilst Lanzini was clearly rusty when he came back last season, I still saw good pace, control, vision and, most importantly, full commitment to the challenge of the tackle.

Similarly, there is nothing tentative about Wilshere’s pre-season performances.

So far, Yarmolenko’s recovery seems the most questionable.

As has been suggested above, if we’re top heavy with attacking midfielders, and/ or need to generate cash to buy in where we are lightweight, I would sell Yarmolenko well before Lanzini.

I also disagree that Fornals, Lanzini and Wilshere can’t play in the same team. If you look at Wilshere’s career stats, he has often played very deep and there was some discussion last year of of him being the ideal player to support Rice in defensive/ central mid.

23 Jul 2019 11:09:20
In my opinion Lanzini is our most creative player hopefully after a full preseason he will be back to his best playing in the hole behind Haller can't believe some fans want to sell him give a years extension then hopefully a long term contract on the money he deserves next summer.

23 Jul 2019 14:23:14
I find Lanzini frustrating, clearly he has talent but fails to deliver on a consistent basis!

Payet elevated his game and of course along with others as well in that team!

I think he tries to mimic is international team mate Messi in trying to dribble all the time which unfortunately more often than not he comes up short on!

23 Jul 2019 18:51:47
Some good points Costa, payet until the strike fiasco was possibly if not the best then certainly one of the best players I have seen in a whu shirt . Lanzini is quality but can get bullied off the ball . As for messi? Yes he plays with world class stars but even he doesn't always produce, let's see what a fit lanzini can do :)

23 Jul 2019 22:18:59
Lanzini is worth considerably more £15 million that's what you pay for decent championship players he's an ARGENTINIAN international for £30 to 40mill is right its going to take him time to get confidence that the ACL is going to hold up he would havebroken down by now if it wasnt going to hold up. COYI.

25 Jul 2019 10:46:18
Why would we want to sell Lanzini, at his best he is at least on a par with Erickson and Mata for example
Sure we seem to be stacked with creative midfielders but injuries and drops in form mean we can’t have enough .
Now we have bought a classy striker let’s make sure that he isn’t starved of decent service .
Last season when he returned was admittedly not the Lanzini we have become accustomed to, but he was out for a long time and it’s difficult to pick up where he was before the injury when only featuring in the back end of the season.
Hopefully a proper pre season will see him back to his creative best . I certainly wouldn’t give up on him .

25 Jul 2019 11:13:58
Problem is if he has a good season we could lose him for nothing next summer and we need funds now to strengthen in defence and need another striker.

25 Jul 2019 11:16:21
Personally, I’d prefer Mata or Erickson.

25 Jul 2019 16:54:57
Lanzini, Fornals and Anderson are the three Pellegrini will use behind Heller, and probably Rice and Noble/ Medel sitting behind. That is a quality set up, plenty of creativity there, to break open those packed defences that teams often play. From what I saw first half of Lanzini against Man Cty in the Asia Trophy, he has plenty to offer, maybe not at his peak yet but I think he will get there come the start of the season. Yarmalenko, Antonio, Snodgrass and Wilshire (who looks in great form could well start against Man Cty) provide quality back up.

26 Jul 2019 06:43:45
Lanzini has a 2 year extension option to the club's benefit I believe which he is currently challenging the legal veracity of.

26 Jul 2019 16:54:46
Stubbo, hmmm sounds ominous if he may be challenging it, why I wonder would he do that unless he wants away? Looking for a big money payoff maybe before his opportunities start running out? ⚒⚒⚒⚒.

27 Jul 2019 11:10:42
Pretty sure its over money from what I recall.

Think the rumour was the extension takes him up to 70k per week automatically from the 40k odd he's on, and he's obviously seen wages at the club spiral since signing that deal so believes should be getting more.

27 Jul 2019 13:54:22
If he’s going up to £70k, which, according to reports, is what we are paying Haller - that’s got to be plenty. Of the two who is likely to get more playing time this year?

Bearing in mind, admittedly through no fault of his own, he has basically just had a year on the sidelines, he needs to prove himself.

I’m a real fan of his, but, naive as it sounds, I feel he owes us at the moment.

31 Jul 2019 13:49:16
Medical advice after acl is approx 80% chance of same fitness as before or even better. So fingers crossed.

21 Jul 2019 01:56:52
SKY are reporting we've been offered Aaron Ling from MLS. Anyone heard of him.

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21 Jul 2019 11:09:20
Morning Mark think it's Aaron Long a 26 year old defender playing with the New York redbulls he appears to have been around a bit and has played 76 games for the Red Bulls

Personally would have thought on his experience he wouldn't be up to PL standard but who knows.

22 Jul 2019 00:48:23
Looked him up - looks good but more importantly, wonder who is leaving? Know reid was considering retiring not that long ago.

22 Jul 2019 06:50:25
I wouldn’t be disappointed to see both Reid and Ogbonna leave.

In the last couple of friendlies I’ve also noticed Declan Rice has been used as a central defender, perhaps he is being looked at as a “back up” choice to cover Diop and Balbuena with another defensive midfielder sitting in while he covers.

22 Jul 2019 12:27:20
@die-4, I just posted something similar on the banter page. I think Reid and Oggy are both past it.

Pulgar I believe would be perfect for us him and Rice would make a solid partnership. Ball winner with a great range of passing. Wonder if there is any genuine interest in him? Like you say would also three up Rice to cover CB we wouldn't miss him as much in the middle if we had pulgar as opposed to just Noble and Sanchez as DMs.

22 Jul 2019 16:49:52
Long is no where near good enough for our squad. Even if its just adding depth. Would much rather us try to develop youth at the back or spend elsewhere. 100% not worth it.

22 Jul 2019 16:56:27
The talk around Reece Oxford seems to have died down as well. I saw somewhere that maybe he had turned himself around, but this is all guesswork at this stage. I am not a fan of moving your best players around just because they are good enough in other positions. For me, your best players have to specialise in their positions because that is where they will be better than the opposition. Phil Jones is a classic example, he was a great CB as a young kid, but at Man Utd he player more positions than John O'Shea, and not he is average at a few positions rather than great at one.
Interesting that we have not seen Cresswell, Oxford, Holland or Xande Silva in pre-season much.

Oggy did ok last year, but that's all he is, OK.
Reid is on a long contract still, and if he could come back to where he was that would be great. But there are still questions on whether he can play MP's style of game. I'd love him back. Dec would be our best 3rd option at CB still, but that leaves a huge hole at DM where we have nobody who can be even half as good as him.

Pulgar would be a great addition to play as backup or alongside Dec. We NEED a solid player here because if Dec is injured then we really will struggle based on what iv seen of Sanchez. Sanchez is coming back from a very bad injury now, so he might not even be as good as he was before he came to us, and we don't even know what level that was, so it is a risky gamble. Nobes is too slow Personally I am really interested to see where he fits Fornals in, because he looks like a player that plays higher up (like Wilshere and Lanzini) when we need someone with legs next to Dec to give us a balance in CM. I don't know him well enough though, so he may be the answer. Pulgar would be a decent signing for me.

23 Jul 2019 09:04:58
Xande Silva is recovering from a serious illness.

19 Jul 2019 19:46:05
Rumours about Pulgar. He would be a great replacement for Obiang at little cost.

Obiang: £9m
Pulgar €12m release clause.

Net spend about £2m.

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19 Jul 2019 23:24:36
Depends on signing on fees etc. so probably a bit more but would be an upgrade.

20 Jul 2019 10:19:14
Agreed. I’ve seen Ed002’s comprehensive list of transfer costs, but I don’t see any way to incorporate them (or make much sense of them! ) when discussing players moving.

It would still seem an excellent transfer move to sell Obiang and replace him by triggering Pulgar’s release clause.

20 Jul 2019 14:49:46
One thing that is obviously clear is our back up players are no way near good enough if we get our usual injuries were screwed net spend of 32 million so far and looking like freebies or loans where's all the money gone with all the players sold and their wages saved same old Sullivan and Gold milking the club dry.

25 Jul 2019 10:32:43
I agree we carry too many players that are not of the standard required if we are to push into the higher positions in the League.
Sanchez Is appalling, Ogbonna is a liability, The Striker we bought from Preston has never been up to it (£10M thrown away ) , Cullen isn’t going to make the grade, Reece Oxford isn’t doing it, Hernandez isn’t scoring weight of goals and only in the box when he does score, he is past his best, left back is a problem and one of the two should go and a decent full back brought In.
Reid needs to prove he can stay fit but deserves the chance
We should get rid of the lot they won’t ever be 1st X1 players and bench warming at best is not going to help them . We should get a fee for most of them which we can spend on decent squad players and buy some quality youths to develop.
We hold on to youths for too long when it’s clear they are never going to be of Premier League standard. What was a flood of top youth players is now a trickle . We should be trying to buy promising 14, yr olds and up if we haven’t got our own . If they are any good then they should progress to the squad and bench at 16 . Other clubs are very aggressive in their youth recruitment we should be trying to bring talent in .
Obiang has gone, in fairness he wasn’t getting much game time and won’t be missed too much, in fact the £8M is more valuable if used for purchases.

 


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