West Ham Rumours

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09 Dec 2024 18:41:03
Graham potter here. tonight again, that makes four visits, looks like at this time that he's going after the job, and getting ready to take the post soon as Loppy trips up, which sooner or later is inevitable i, scout here from psg, to watch two wolves players, not WH players, Potter has busied himself and watched every recorded game this season, and has familiarised himself with the ground and fans, so he's obvious favourite now, anyway let's see how it plays out tonight

10 Dec 2024 07:20:20
He obviously fancies the role, that alone is positive.
Although we won last night, we were bang average. The defense is all over the place.
Wolves should have had a penalty, or possibly 2. Had it been the other way around our fans would have been going crackers.

10 Dec 2024 08:54:12
Great to hear the Potter news imo🤞 O’neil must have been raging about the penalty decisions, especially the first which was as certain a penalty as you could ever see, I like fair play, that was not! But as the saying goes, it evens it self out over the season I suppose, but can cause trouble on and off the pitch?
I didn’t even see us as the better side, thought it was even, but the substitutions bemuse me, wtf does he replace Summerville for Ings who was a handful for the defenders all through the game, Paqueta is a waste of time and is a liability imo!
Tomas came good again with his usual goal, some other usual standouts as well, but a great 3 points👍COYI and Antonio ⚒⚒⚒⚒

10 Dec 2024 12:41:29
Personally I don't think they should be pens but in the modern game I wouldn't be at all surprised to see those given, so we were definitely lucky.

10 Dec 2024 14:33:12
Iron.Al, yeah we all see the same things but opinions vastly different at times, but good for friendly debate. As soon as Emerson or whoever’s arm shoved him over especially when you know the opponents looking for it goes over, I instantly thought stupid challenge in the area, especially when you see the way ridiculous yellows are dished out for hardly touching a player?
I never saw many replays of it or maybe I might not have the same opinion, but at the time I thought it a stone bonker pen? ⚒⚒⚒⚒⚒

10 Dec 2024 14:35:33
So that’s 3 games we’ve won very luckily: Palace, Man U and Wolves. That’s 50% of our points. That stat alone should have Lopetegui on his way. We won’t fluke it for the rest of the season if he stays in charge.

11 Dec 2024 05:04:21
Well we were unlucky Leicester last week. Or doesn't it count when we're unlucky.

11 Dec 2024 12:37:58
I tend to agree with 7580. Whilst most of us think JLo is a bit of a disaster, I do agree his substitutions were bemusing. But I still feel we played the better football by some way and why should we apologise for when decisions go our way. Plenty will go against us in equal measure throughout a season. We totally outplayed Leicester last week and if Summerville disallowed goal had stood which I think it should have it quite possibly would be a different result. Also Kudus had 2 goals disallowed and the first of which was dreadful play on his part for not being able to stay on side. Fair enough we want rid of JLo but we need to stop trying desperately to find reasons to criticise unnecessarily IMHO.

12 Dec 2024 07:33:57
What you say is very reasonable and point taken. However, unfortunately Leicester were absolute crap and we don’t have to look very far to find reasons to criticise.

08 Dec 2024 20:24:02
What's with the Allegri rumour, apparently he wants the job? 🤷

09 Dec 2024 10:29:31
Stevie, I wrote a post re him last week, Allegri and agent, had very good meeting with WH, two sides of the coin here, his quality and skill, are recorded, he is a great organiser, which is the basic necessitiy of what WH need, The conversations started with him not taking responsibility. until seasons end, he needs to integrate team to his methods, cutting short all players holidays to two weeks! so he can get going, immediately, before officially starting on July 1st, Do WH fans want Juventus mark 2.? Flip side of the coin, would mean caretaker…… Noble , perhaps, for whole season.! whilst Allegri gets agreed contract to start, (as above ) Two things to note, Allegri is expensive , which Sullivan hates, but as a private citizen he has and would be free of course to attend training by invitation, and start explaining his methods to Noble SO what does Sullivan decide to do?

09 Dec 2024 13:33:26
".what does Sullivan decide to do? "

Re-hire Moyes.

09 Dec 2024 16:31:15
My guess is that Moyes would prefer Everton or Wolves if either become vacant. For him to consider us would be going backwards. Let’s hope he doesn’t know where reverse gear is.

10 Dec 2024 07:21:44
Moyes is far superior to this wally. I'd have him back until the end of the season if Potter does not want it.

08 Dec 2024 11:22:52
Reality is now creeping in at WH, where Steidten has to continue with transfer business irregardless of the manager situation, Chelsea are being sounded out on three players Chuckwemaka, Mudryk, and one other, nothings ideal of course but we have a situation where Brentford are punching well beyond their weight, and Forest although backed by wealth are doing the same, WH are a much bigger club than these two, attendances, ground size, turnover, spending etc etc, WH by all perimeters should be positioned 6/8 in this league, WH have real potential, where is it all going wrong?

08 Dec 2024 17:09:13
Agree with that.

I spent 35 years as an English teacher. If you don’t mind me doing what I used to:

It’s parameters, not perimeters. It’s either regardless, or irrespective, not irregardless (which isn’t a word) .

I’m not trying to be the grammar police, just trying to help.

08 Dec 2024 18:20:44
OK my spelling not all that, I try my best .! Regards Joyful

09 Dec 2024 11:34:14
Keep up the good work Joyful, you’re posts are really insightful

09 Dec 2024 20:46:57
Be careful dabber. Mmpr will get you on your you're!

09 Dec 2024 23:33:07
Haha was too careful spelling insightful right and missed ‘you’re’! 😁

04 Dec 2024 15:06:04
Amidst all the differing views on the WH sites, I have been told, that Loppy Has asked for one more game, to get it right, this is definitely correct, however, only on a personal note, can't see any point in this 16 games he's had To get it right, Unfortunately I can see Sullivan going along with this, so for me, could well be a delay in the long goodbyes, if on the other hand, we get a result next Monday, the goodbye will be postponed, . as far as I'm concerned it's all pointless, after watching 4 games, all the incompetence of this manager was showing, the writing was on the wall then, he was a ridiculous choice in the first place, Sullivan. Needs to take it on the chin, and move on

04 Dec 2024 16:30:20
Ok, a couple of things.

Firstly, if the board have congregated a meeting with the intention of sacking Lopetegui and Lopetegui has asked for one more game to get it right, then he is acknowledging he is not doing his job well enough, but thinks he is close to cracking it.

Secondly, if the board have agreed to give him one more game, then they must think he is close to cracking it as well. In which case, they probably don't see it as being a big risk, so what's the harm in one more game?

If they DON'T think he is close to getting it right, and they are still leaning to giving him the boot, then they either aren't close to bringing in a replacement or he has offered an incentive to give him one more game surely?

What you have just said Joyful, doesn't really make sense without context of why West Ham would consider giving him one more game. If you are implying that West Ham are considering it because it saves them a weeks extra expense in a termination agreement, then you're post has been possible since game week 4 as you just said.

04 Dec 2024 17:14:02
What if our next game was against Liverpool, I doubt he would be asking for one more game it’s only because our next game is at home to Wolves which is a very winnable game that he’s asked for one more 🤷

04 Dec 2024 17:59:22
Sorry die 4, Fully understand your post, but there’s no point in criticising me, but it’s ok if you wish to, I Can’t speak for WH board, can’t speak for Loppy, that request was made, I’m not in a position to. clarify peoples thoughts, and yes I did say that Loppy should have left after 4 games, along with just one other poster Tin Legs, and I have stuck to that opinion, whilst vast majority on this site, wanted to give him a dozen or more games, well they got their wish, and you can see what’s happened, I have also heard, that Steidten (not surprisingly ) has been told, that any impending meetings or business in conjunction with itransfer talks, should be frozen if only temporarily and with immediate effect, don’t know any more on that, been trying to find out some more about Todibo, apparently argument spun into orbit, after player was, picked out for various points, the first was no long balls out, which Todibo looks to be good at, try to keep possession, the players attitude went, into immediate retaliation, he hit back with lack of organising, the defence, and stormed out, much more was said but Bowen stopped it escalating, From this, and Loppy having words with Summerville Before, berating Todibo, we must assume overall feelings are not great, in the dressing room DIE 4, I have no idea, what manager is going to come in at present, 3 of the supposed candidates are asking for big money ( at this time ) . Potter and Allegri are two, of them, they want 200 k a week! don’t see that with Sullivan He’s more like 60 k, we will have to see how it all pans out, Kretinsky is now involved

04 Dec 2024 20:30:21
I’d be very surprised if Potter wants £200k per week, Allegri yes, he’s managed at the top. Potter would do it for something similar to Moyes £65k

04 Dec 2024 21:17:46
Look Potter might do it for 25 k, if he wants the job, and if he is wanted by WH, but it appears he has asked for a lot more, , Con si sow, that’s how it’s pronounced, and Terzic ask a lot less, for me it’s strange that no club, has gone for Potter, that might indicate something, was he a flash in the pan at Brighton? Allegri comes with credentials top defensive coach at Juve, I understand that the ex Porto coach and Terzic are top two for Steidten, but Sullivan went his own way on Loppy, so it’s unpredictable

05 Dec 2024 03:29:52
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying about Potter. I have reservations about him being a possible ‘one hit wonder’.

05 Dec 2024 09:49:16
Apparently his points per game at Brighton wasn't that impressive and both de Zerbi and Hurzeler have done better. Also benefited from the Brighton transfer set up.

1 more game agaisnt wolves? Wonder how many of their players will want to put in a big performance against him? Ait nouri for sure.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, he took over a team that was on the verge of relegation playing horrible, negative, defensive football. He turned them into the team they are and De Zerbi benefitted from that massively. It was noticeable that they were getting worse under him, while they had been improving under Potter. And Potter never had a striker worthy of the name, they would create multiple chances that would go begging. De Zerbi had Ferguson emerge and they bought some forwards as well.}

05 Dec 2024 11:18:31
Joyful appreciate you say that you felt he should have gone after 4 games but that’s irrelevant and doesn’t make you some form of mystic. We had to give him more than 4 games otherwise we’d have been a laughing stock and what new manager would want to join f their predecessor only got 4 games? You say an awful lot of sensible things buddy and I appreciate and like your posts but in my opinion that one is wrong. Potter I’m not convinced on, he’s certainly not worth £200k. Terzic is a safe bet as knows Sullivans ways and is a Steidten choice so there could be no room for complaint. I’d be happy with him indeed but personally would slightly prefer Carrick as he ticks a couple of more boxes.

05 Dec 2024 12:42:55
Dabber,
I’d heard that Terzic is preferred by Sullivan, but not Steidten. Nick on C&B seems to have the same info. Carrick was a name I wanted to replace Moyes, but then again I would have accepted the tea lady in preference to the Argyll Gargoyle.
Fingers crossed the board will pull the JLop plug, but I bet he’s given the Wolves game which we should easily win.

05 Dec 2024 11:45:35
Good insight Ed, I suppose with Chelsea a lot of players were brought in also which probably doesn't help.

He could possibly work well with Stiedten.

Ultimately I think with Sullivan it'll come down to the best deal rather than the best manager and its being said that Potter may consider a short term deal to the end of the season which I'd imagine would definitely suit sullivan.

Personally out of the most recent names linked I'd of went for Conceicao but can't see sullivan going for that one with having no prem experience

{Ed001's Note - no one was going to succeed initially with Chelsea, there were just too many players brought in and too many egoes to manage.}

05 Dec 2024 12:47:40
He'll get the Wolves gig, win handsomely and he'll be back in the game. That is my prediction for Loppy.
As I've said, I'd like Potter/Nolan.

05 Dec 2024 15:35:19
Apparently he's safe for now as the meetings with potential managers didn't go well as non of then would take a short term deal.

Embarrassing really that sullivan thinks that an acceptable way to approach the situation is to get someone in who is that desperate they would take a a short term deal.

People saying Potter won't risk losing his Chelsea pay off for a 6 month deal.

The circus will never stop with this club until Sullivan is gone unfortunately.

05 Dec 2024 15:43:19
One thing is for sure, the board needs to act and make a statement. Either publicly back him to the end of the season, or sack and move on to someone else (one of Steiden's picks NOT a Sullivan one IMO) . One last game, or these "you have 2-3 games to prove yourself" are pointless at this stage.
Worrying to hear the clashes in the dressing room. I am not sure if that is normal when teams are struggling and emotions are high so it is just a media opportunity to add fire, but if there is genuinely an issue then the people close to it should be able to see it, and that is enough to force a decision.

J-Lop simply didn't need to play the high line vs Leicester. I get that if a team want to perfect a style then they need to keep playing it and slowly mistakes will iron out and become fewer as players get better at it. You have to go through some pain to achieve the gain after all. BUT, he/we needed a result and Leicester are poor enough that we could beat them without playing a high line. We battered them, but ultimately it was the early goal that gave them belief and no doubt impacted our players. While it was a defender making the tiny milimeter mistake, IMO he should have been playing deeper anyway and not put in that position for this game. For me it showed a lack of awareness that results are more importantant than implementing his high line, quite a GLARING error of judgement.
While i didn't think J-Lop was the ideal choice (does that mean i have been right all along? like the sack after 4 game fans? LOL joking), i certainly supported J-Lop and i honestly wanted him to do well and have the chance to do so. I think he would have improved us eventually but he's not reading the room right now, and he is his own worst enemy with the high line. There is no doubt we are not far off where we should be points wise. My honest opnion is that we should have been 5 points higher at this stage, and in interest of fine margins that comes from only 1 goal which would have beaten Everton (+2 points) and the Leicester game (+3 points) which we easily played well enough to win. So it feels harsh if a manager has to go when points wise they are not far off, but ultimately it may be the right move.
As for a replacement, who knows. None of the options really inspire me as the right choice, my only wish would be for Stieden to get HIS choice seeing as he is DOF

05 Dec 2024 18:46:34
We've been lucky in games as well though Nick, thinking of the man u game particularly I'm sure there have been others as well so I'd say we are about where we should be based on performance.

Leicester game was killed once we had a goal wrongly disallowed and they went and scored a second shortly after, don't think lopetegui helped with his substitutions either.

If its true Lopetegui has asked for one more game what happens if he loses will he walk and save sullivan the compensation probably another reason Sulli is happy to give him 1 more game.

And even if he wins does that doesn't repair the relationship with the players.

It's a shambles.

09 Dec 2024 07:32:16
No question Iron.Al we got extra points at Man Utd that we didn't deserve, maybe tge disallowed Liecester goal was our payback. I felt confident a lot of that game that we were going to get one and then a couple more could follow. As soon as the 2nd went in though i expected a 3rd as we threw everyone forward, and that's what happend. Disallowed goal was indeed pivotal in that sense. 3rd was a mistake by Killman not Loppy at that stage, we were playing high yes, but at that stage we needed to take the risks. On another day and we cruise that game, Karma and all that LOL

01 Dec 2024 16:13:29
Was talking to 2 Middlesbrough fans last week who said most of the fans there believe Carrick is coming to West Ham and they are gutted! God I hope so! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

02 Dec 2024 16:21:35
Hard to have an opinion on this one, i am a big fan of Michael Carrick but i do not know enough about Middlesborough to know if he has done a great job or not there. He has had 2 seasons there now and failed to get them promoted, and his teams tend to concede a fair amount of goals (never in the top 8 for fewest goals conceded) which is not what we need. This is in a weaker league also, but by all means not an easy league.
It could be Borough have not got the investment, maybe they lost key players . i do not know enough about them to pass a judgement on him here. Anyone know more pleas share?

Personally, and i know people are very polarised on this, i think we need to stick with J-Lop through December. We were WAY off the pace vs Arsenal, but most teams are, and we encountered yet another team at the peak of their form this year. Seems we always meet teams this year when they are hitting their best form. However, this was still BETTER than our performance vs Arsenal last year, so arguably its progress, and there were key officiating decisions that made some differnece also this year (not saying the result would have been differnet) . We must remember how bad our form was last year, we had 14 points aft 17 games last year! What we are seeing is a continuation of that form, which can PARTLY be justified by the fact we are seeing a huge squad change and a changing coaching/playing style. I still think we could get around 50 points if we can get Fulkrug playing or get a new striker in soon. that's not bad for a transitional year.
J-Lop has had 1/3 of season to learn his players and tweak his style, and i believe he has recently adjusted this slightly for the better by not playing too high a defensive line. Players have also shown signs of adapting and we are getting better at creating chances as they gel more. The Arsenal game was a free pass for me, and the real proof in the pudding comes in the next 5 games up until new year. A VERY poor run in these games and it will be hard to justify his place at the helm.
We are only 5 points off 7th and i believe we have had a hard run start and also encountered teams when they have been bang on form. It is fine margins still, reverse the Totenham result and we are above them, that's ONE game, same goes for Aston Villa! And this is without a top class striker, with Paqueta out of sorts, and Kudus out of form (although he looked like he was clicking before Spurs)

02 Dec 2024 18:25:13
Nickinho you are a true optimistic WH supporter Hope you are right, but at this time I don’t share your rosy outlook, IF we can get some quality in the window, then maybe …….I was Loppy out after 4 games, along with others, IMO nothing has been seen to date to change that opinion, The Barodes was only game we played well, 6 of our 15 points were gained against Man U and Palace, we where extremely lucky! In both games, ALSO for me there are no free pass games, we need to be competitive against all comers, that’s the secret of success, and the whole reason Steidten was appointed, sorry mate, that’s my take at present

03 Dec 2024 21:43:06
How can you drop Emerson for Coufal? Madness. Why does he not play the same team which played Newcastle, forget Arsenal - they’re on another planet to us.
Wonder if Potter n Nolan fancy linking together?

03 Dec 2024 22:20:34
Sorry but u can not seriously suggest we keep this manager another day let alone December. He should be no where near that touchline, and if they don’t get rid, they need to have a serious look at themselves.
Ings should never wear the shirt again, why play wan Bissaka on the left when Emerson is available is just ludicrous. He needs to go now.