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11 Feb 2019 10:00:40
Today am going to recall a sad but laughable incident which happened when I was a kid travelling up ro Sheffield, to watch us play at Hillsboro, I was In The next carriage to the team who were supposed to have gone at 7am in the morning coach which had broken down, so the team is on the 1030 train coming in just before 2 pm enough time to get to the ground no problem it was plainly obvious to the supporters that the team were a. Shall we say a little inebriated, especially Noel Dwyer the goal keeper, Sheffield Wednsday had nine shots on goal and scored seven times DWYER dived the wrong way several times and said he couldn't see the ball he was lurching about completely pissed, Disgraceful behaviour, this was the beginning of the end to the period when we trained on Guiness with whiskey chasers. IRONMIKE.

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12 Feb 2019 17:40:15
Iron Mike, you have a fantastic memory as that was 59 years ago.
Amazing that you can remember that far back.
Hats off to you mate.

12 Feb 2019 17:58:12
Mike, your bloody older than me I reckon, there’s me thinking originally you are about early 50’s until it was obvious from your recollections that you weren’t 😂🤣😂 👍👍.

12 Feb 2019 20:32:58
And we were 3rd from top at that point. Sounds like West Ham.

13 Feb 2019 02:00:31
I was 10 at that point. IRONMIKE.

13 Feb 2019 03:10:36
There is an . Old saying Everything changes but nothing changes I think that was particularly invented for WH. IRONMIKE.

11 Feb 2019 08:48:15
I think Cantwell also played at centre forward once or twice. They were nearly all drinkers. In those days there was a tunnel that allowed you to move between the then North and South terraces behind the two goals. This tunnel ran under the main stand and passed the dressing rooms. And outside the West Ham dressing room used to be a stack of beer crates. Maybe I am wrong but I also think I recall the odd player returning to the pitch after half time still smoking and then throw their dog end on the pitch.

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10 Feb 2019 10:05:44
You mention Billy Bonds catching a bus. I remember also catching a bus at Ilford Broadway to go to Upton Park in the mid-fifties and Johny Dick got on the same bus with a holdall carrying his kit just like any other Saturday afternoon footballer. even though he was an international player (albeit just one cap for Scotland). I think it must have been the season before Vic Keeble joined us.

Also on the great Bobby Moore, I always wonder how his career would have developed if Duncan Edwards hadn't died in the Munich air crash.

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10 Feb 2019 15:45:01
Bloody hell Syd, we’re from the same era, I remember as about a 14 year old which would be 1958/ 59 travelling home on the District Line with an Uncle and cousin that had taken me to the game and big John Bond was in the train with his big hold-all and the WH shirt visible as it was not zipped up, think he wanted people to see it🤣🤣 he got off at Barking station, so assume he lived in Barking then? Saw him score a goal against Swansea from a free kick just inside our half, he was another hero of mine, also Malcolm Allison another no nonsense CH who was infamous for his Fedora hat and managed Man City, bags of charisma, quite a ladies man big Malc👍⚒⚒⚒😊.

10 Feb 2019 16:48:14
Must be link, didn't bond also go on to manage man city?

10 Feb 2019 21:52:40
Jason, yes he did manage Man C, at WH he had the nickname of “Muffin” after the puppet character Muffin the Mule, nicknamed because of his strong kicking ability! Bonds was another colourful character like Malcolm Allison. Bond’s son Kevin teamed up with Redknapp at several clubs as his assitant.

11 Feb 2019 08:50:28
Bond later managed at Norwich and Allison at City IRONMIKE.

10 Feb 2019 07:11:19
Iron Mike or anyone else.
What has happened to the Claret pitch surround?
Read somewhere that it would be installed in Jan, it is now Feb and no news.

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10 Feb 2019 08:58:38
Mmm good point Gerry, maybe it takes long time to manufacture?

10 Feb 2019 10:36:30
Middle of October it was agreed, ridiculous amount of time to wait.
If she was still alive, my old Nan could have knitted one by now :-)

10 Feb 2019 10:52:46
Haha probably look better as well Gerry 👍.

11 Feb 2019 07:32:00
between season. ? IRONMIKE.

09 Feb 2019 12:58:03
It is reported that the East Stand will be named after Billy Bonds.

For my money Billy is the greatest West Ham TEAM player of my lifetime.

I am a great admirer of Bobby Moore who was undoubtedly a world class player and deserves all the accolades showered on him. However he was a big game player and I think Billy was the greatest club player week in week out over his long career.

So for me Billy Bonds is the greatest West Ham player of my lifetime?

Anybody agree?

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09 Feb 2019 14:26:31
IN my view you are 100% correct. IRONMIKE.

09 Feb 2019 14:56:15
Syd can’t disagree with you that Billy played like us supporters wanted to see. Over the years it is difficult to say who was the best. Sir trev for me was excellent, Jonny sissons was a personal favourite growing up. But so glad that BB is getting this honour. I think all us hammers will have a personal favourite but all will agree long over due this accolade for Bonzo.

09 Feb 2019 18:20:27
Di canio for me.

09 Feb 2019 21:36:32
Alan Devonshire for me! A magician in his time.

09 Feb 2019 21:53:01
Or how about Frank McAvennie!

Imagine how many he would of scored if he was sober, got to be up there just because of that.
I struggle to walk in straight line when pissed so for him to run, dribble and shot puts him there or thereabouts.

10 Feb 2019 04:28:44
I understand why our younger members vote for Macavennie or Di Canio the great entertainer, the older ones must understand if you were not in the Bonds era , it is difficult to fathom his aura out Let me explain the pitches are now of good quality year round, which allows the real footballers to shine, back then the Boleyn as most other grounds post November was a mud bath save the wing area, , , so the call on stamina was. much greater, I recall one game against Stoke I think 0/ 0 ten minutes to play we had a few lightweights In the team, Paul Brush on the deck says i'm eexhausted Bonds by the touchline picks him up by the shirt collar, Your a F+++++g disgrace, get up, and your training with me this week boy, he shoves brush into the stoke box , Bonds go’s Forward creates mayhem in the box, ball runs free hits brush on his backside robson is there we score Lord what a weeks ttrainiing Brush had with Bonds DO WE have anybody like that now of course not, After Training Bonds got a bus home from outside the ground eventually he bought a car. IRONMIKE.

10 Feb 2019 08:14:01
Mike, I am with you on B. B. every step of the way, I am an older poster as I have stated previously (74) not the oldest on here maybe, but was a regular at home games from when I first started work earning money in 1959/ 60. BB was a giant to have in your side, every game, he gave everything in every game 100%, those that are to young cannot appreciate what we saw, week in week out, not skilful, but the ferocity of his game and enthusiasm was electricity for the crowd, who adored him! He wasn’t a “look at me” player, so modest and unassuming, but expected the same effort from everybody, a true leader to have in the trenches with you, you wouldn’t want Bill steaming towards you as an opposing forward I can tell you 🤣👍⚒⚒.

10 Feb 2019 09:55:31
CANNOT agree with you more. IRONMIKE.

10 Feb 2019 14:16:21
I went to my first game in 1985 and was able to catch the end of his career. Shame never saw him in his prime but still magnificant then.
I did live Devonshire and DiCanio later on, Stewart and Dicks very much in that die for the shirt attitude.

10 Feb 2019 17:20:18
George"bruno" parris for me lol.

10 Feb 2019 17:22:59
Dicks di canio slater devonshire bonds moore parkes mcavennie cottee miklosko all greats for whufc.

12 Feb 2019 18:12:20
I used to love the bald assassin “Pop Robson” he was basically a poor mans Alan Shearer. (104 goals for the IRONs) but cost about 90 grand on old money.

09 Feb 2019 08:59:35
So apparently spurs want to pay 35m£ for rice, are they only buying one leg then lol

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09 Feb 2019 09:40:20
How can the papers have the nerve to run such a nonsense story 35m haha rice will only ever go when man city make an outrageous bid of 70m+.

09 Feb 2019 09:51:56
I thought we’d moved on from being a selling club.

Make Rice on field captain next season.

08 Feb 2019 03:40:46
PROBLEM LOOMING! SPURS looking at replacing the likely departure of Eriksen with two buys Maddison ( whom we should have bought in the first place ) and RICE, MP is aware and has forwarned the powers that be he's not for sale don't negotiate end of IRONMIKE.

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08 Feb 2019 07:38:09
Spurs are dreaming they couldn't afford Rice.
Unless of course they throw in Harry Kane!
Last place Rice would go as well.

08 Feb 2019 07:59:53
Would never do business with that lot out of principle. Put 20m on Rice and that will put Levy off lol.

08 Feb 2019 09:13:57
cant see him wanting to go to spurs can you imagine the backlash.

08 Feb 2019 09:23:48
I don't see Rice going to Spurs, IF he goes one day he will go to a bigger club than them.
Agree that Maddison would have been a great buy! But we could not get him because of our limited remaining budget after spending more on Anderson (who is better) leaving less funds to stretch over the multiple other positions we required (Balbuena, Diop, Fanianski and Yarmolenko etc) . We had £20m left to spend on this position and no more, and Leicester were willing to cough up more money for a player unproven at the top level, so a week or so later we got Yarmolenko. Would have loved Maddison but it was not possible, we got the better player in Anderson at the end of the day.

08 Feb 2019 10:52:48
I can’t see Spurs after Rice unless they shop Dyer on elsewhere.

Eriksson is a terrific player, for me, their best. I quite like Maddison, but he wouldn’t fill one of his boots.

09 Feb 2019 08:48:49
Why would we sell to them for starters and seeing that there going to bid 35mil for him? Come on he’s easily worth double that in the market now a days.

09 Feb 2019 12:31:18
i see a daily paper reporting 35m hahaha.

10 Feb 2019 17:25:59
LEVY wouldn't sell ADEBAYOR to us that's how much he hates west ham because he was finished when we tried tell levy we don't do buisness with spurs end of. COYI.

05 Feb 2019 12:15:58
APART frm Mark Roca who might just be affordable WH are watching. 5 other players at Espanyol But not the goalkeepers. IRONMIKE.

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06 Feb 2019 09:04:30
Morning Mike, hope its proper scouting we are doing and not the old west ham scatter gun coming out again :) I'm sure mp wants to change some of the squad this summer but can he go in for another overhaul? Took us ages to start playing this season.

06 Feb 2019 12:37:58
Well I don’t think there’s going to be rafts of choice, the amount of players we have that want moving on one way or the other is alarming, So yes I do expect more Money spent and we are not going to get a fortune for those going to the exit door Either UNHAPPILY we just do not have the younger players to bring forward having watched several U 23s.

Games, there maybe one or two but a lot of these guys are nowhere near first team level, we need to spend slowly and wisely no more in patients, no more silly long contracts for any player over 24.
regards. IRONMIKE.

06 Feb 2019 18:40:04
Appreciated article as always.

07 Feb 2019 08:27:32
Thanks Mike, agreed mate.

05 Feb 2019 03:44:06
JAOA FELIX. EXACTLY how much do you want? Say WH Well it's only a phone call but at least we are asking. IRONMIKE.

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05 Feb 2019 08:22:57
€120m release clause? Dream on.

05 Feb 2019 10:53:56
Goodness Mike, what I have read about him Juve, Real and Man u are looking at around £105m, it looks like he is the next Pele Cruyff, Maradona, Ronaldo, Messi and George Parris rolled into one.

I think WH response after the phone call to Benfica would have been. "OK, no need to swear we were only asking. thanks bye!

{Ed002's Note - I would love to hear more about this "phone call" from West Ham given what Cordeiro has said.}

05 Feb 2019 11:26:17
Best we leave things as they are And with the greatest respect I do not feel the need to vindicate myself to you, WJ are a small club, with perhaps the greatest set of supporters why can’t they have a stab at getting a quality player , , it is of course extremely unlikely we all know that. Don’t ask don’t get. IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - Just let me explain this Mike. There was West Ham interest in João Felix of Benfica and an enquiry was made after Thomas Hengen identified the player on behalf of David Moyes. The enquiry was first made after DM had left and MP had joined and confirmed he would be interested. This was in late June last year and Benfica explained he was not for sale (at least whilst they worked on a new contract). Subsequently Felix verbally agreed a new deal and a €120M termination clause included - and that priced him, far far outside of what West Ham can afford as it would need to be paid in cash. Currently they are looking at a way to further increase the termination clause, which would need to be paid in cash, to a much higher figure - but they are constrained from doing so by an FFP issue. The enquiries were not limited to WHU but several other sides also approached his agent and the club. There has been nothing yesterday, or today, or recently from West Ham - it was last summer. Right now there is interest in him from a number of sides - five have been named by Cordeiro.

So try not to mislead the supporters - at least if you are going search the site where on August 1 you shared about João Felix "bid going in for 3M for him".}

05 Feb 2019 11:50:20
I POST what I hear, you will notice that two other sites are now reporting the same thing Albeit much later on I do not set out to mislead Anybody PARTICULARLY our own WH fans, IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know what they "other two sites" are but perhaps they also heard something misquoted about Juventus, PSG, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, West Ham, Monaco and Milan making enquiries last summer and also thought this was yesterday or today? Perhaps you could go to these other sites and correct them with the actual situation I explained in my previous post?}

05 Feb 2019 12:11:51
Why should I involve myself in the affairs of others ? The WH supporters no doubt may or might wish to inform you of the other sites PERHAPS the all knowing oracle such as yourself should actually contact them yourself and put them right As I said what goes on elsewhere ( save one site ) . Is nothing to do with me IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in the other sites - I am just trying to protect the supporters from being misled by Twitter or whatever BS of the non-knowing Oracle.}

05 Feb 2019 12:55:03
POOR little WH fans being misled, joke. IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - Not a joke actually. What you have posted is yet again misinformed BS - and the fans will believe you - in which case you would have misled them again.Perhaps if you concentrated your efforts in finding something truthful or ask rather than spend your time looking to abuse me the site would be a great deal more useful.}

05 Feb 2019 14:16:16
AND perhaps you should stop pretending to be the ORACLE. Because you are definetly not. IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - Where have I said any such thing? Last time you shared your comprehensive BS about Piatek and I had to stop you misleading the WHU fans yet again, you also took the opportunity to abuse and lie about me. Now you are doing it again. Go and read the BS you also wrote about THIS SAME STORY on August 1 last year, may be that will be a little reminder. I don't care if you don't think what I explained about Piatek and Milan being true last time, nor do I care if you don't believe me know about the approach for Joao Felix not being yesterday or today - and nor do I care that you are unable to comprehend that you already discussed this matter last August when you thought he played for Porto: 3M - bid gone in!!!!}

05 Feb 2019 14:53:06
You are the one who did the multiple swearing on this site and then deleted it and made yourself look a real fool I don't NEED that and you can further check I have NEVER sworn at anybody on this site So go ahead and check that out whilst there is no doubting your intelligence, take care you may injure yourself falling off your high horse. IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - I have not sworn, not mentioned swearing nor have I deleted anything. I have not accused you of swearing. Apart from this constant lying of yours, there really does seem to be something amiss. There is clearly an issue that you should look to address.}

05 Feb 2019 15:40:45
*grabs popcorn*.

{Ed039's Note - me too)

05 Feb 2019 16:01:40
get them both a snickers ed039.

05 Feb 2019 16:14:03

05 Feb 2019 17:37:05
Like an old married couple haha guys. there are bigger issues out there. let's not argue over something so silly. Both adults.

05 Feb 2019 19:42:46
Ed02 I seen your post where you did a swear.

{Ed002's Note - In this thread? Wow, you must also be deluded.}

05 Feb 2019 22:46:20
Haha it was soon edited.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, having to deal with vegetable matter like you as well means the site will become unusable. All I tried to do was explain politely what the actual situation is. Now we have to suffer ignorant half-wits like you getting involved.}

05 Feb 2019 23:04:17
Shame they didn’t do the business in August but now not a hope. Don’t know if calls were made now or not but if they were they would have been a pure waste of time.

06 Feb 2019 08:21:50
I for one appreciate both your posts.
Ironmike i am sure says what he hears and I am fine with that, it does not have to be considered misleading, I always take every rumour with a pinch of salt, wherever it comes from. There is every chance this (like a lot of paper rumours) came from a comment that may have actually referred to something from last year, and was not recent. However it may not have been passed to Mike with these specific and how i'm interprets what he hears is his own.
However, I especially appreciate Ed002's comments afterwards that add more context to things, and really value this. The whole point of a rumours board is that people can comment if they know something different about a situation.
No need for all the back and forth guys, us readers just appreciate the info you both provide.

06 Feb 2019 23:53:02
i agree.

08 Feb 2019 08:03:56
As with Nickinho, with one caveat, the loss of Mike led to 3/ 4 days without any *rumours* towards the end of the transfer window - not a good idea if this site is to work/ gain more followers.
I don't have time to scroll through numerous sites just to get my fix so glad Mike gets his info, wherever it comes from. I wait for eds confirmation though before getting my hopes up.

13 Feb 2019 15:21:51
If Ironmike posts something and it’s old news or not true makes no difference to me. It’s about entertaining reading and hope. 👍. Even rumours that are true often end up with a disappointing outcome whereby WH don’t buy the player or something happens to scupper a deal. Ironmike post on mate!

13 Feb 2019 15:22:32
Well said Glen1540.

13 Feb 2019 15:23:15
Ironmike. Don’t get so antagonised by things. One cannot criticise ed002 for his comments when yours are just as bad right? We want to see rumours posted and we want to see rumours questioned and we all need to take it on the chin when we have been pulled up about an error we have made. As an editor on this site, I believe ed002 has the right to advise, clarify and even question certain posts. Otherwise what’s his role on this site?

02 Feb 2019 18:39:07
12th 46 points. Hopefully in the Summer MP buys players that for his style of player in 1st team and fringe.

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