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21 Sep 2017 20:06:04
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20 Sep 2017 22:09:40
All this stick bilic is getting is unfair, we are going to wembley twice this season at least how many managers have done that with us? Lol.

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21 Sep 2017 12:11:26
🙂🙂🙂🙂 what's the odds spurs don't give us a full allocation for the cup game? They won't want 9000 of us there lol lol.

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21 Sep 2017 13:31:16
9 000 fans bring them all on as the Tottenham boys have been running London for the last few years.

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21 Sep 2017 14:47:11
Apparently raver spurs will reduce the capicity for the game! Oh dear obviously they don't fancy it after all :)

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21 Sep 2017 15:06:21
What?
Be difficult to even find spurs fans in a half empty wembley!

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21 Sep 2017 16:09:13
Whufc apart from the Barnsley match we had 80 thousand for Chelsea and 60 plus for Swansea and Burnley hardly poor crowds. I still think you'll win your cup final on Saturday 2-1 as you up your game for spurs.

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21 Sep 2017 19:45:20
Raver your a spurs fan yet.
1. took time out to register for a west ham fans forum and
2. predict west ham to win
Last thing in world i'd ever do about spurs is either of them things.
Typical lol.

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19 Sep 2017 09:36:56
Lanzimi out for a few more weeks, with a lack of creativity without him I fear a few more weeks of hoof ball to carroll and hope for the best.

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18 Sep 2017 20:17:31
If we really want to play Carroll and Antonio with lanzini and Hernandez upfront then the only way is to play Antonio rwb?

Obbonna rice Reid
Antonio Cresswell wing back
Obiang lanzini
arnoutovic
Hernandez carroll

Or drop arnoutovic and play Antonio but doubt he will drop the record signing. Just not sure how the tea fits together. someone will have to be benched. If it was me i'd drop Carroll.

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20 Sep 2017 17:03:37
Yeah!

We looked fantastic without Carroll in the first three games, were we unbeaten with no goals conceded and scored loads!

It is was it is, with Carroll up front we have a chance to get forward instead of the ball pinging straight back at us, play to your strengths and get results.

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Michael Carrick

18 Sep 2017 05:45:39
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new player profile about, Michael Carrick

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17 Sep 2017 09:52:52
To all those who are having a pop at Bilic for playing Hernandez on the left, whilst I do understand your frustrations, what starting XI and formation would you play? I've mulled this over myself for weeks now and, unless I'm missing something, there's no way of fitting chicarito, Carroll, arnautovic, lanzini, zabaleta and Antonio in the same team without having Antonio play RWB or having a very open defence. And before anyone says drop Carroll - look at our record before he came back vs. Now! No issues with what you're saying but rather than just whinging maybe come up with a solution?

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17 Sep 2017 11:52:39
Gk hart
Rb zabeleta
Lb cresswell
Cb reid
Cb fonte/ collins/ ogbonna
Dm kouyate/ obiang
Rm antonio
Lm arnaoutovic
Cam lanzini
F Carroll
F chicharito.

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17 Sep 2017 11:55:39
I think the issue stems from our transfer business being all over without any clear plan or direction. We've looked vulnerable defensively when we play 4 at the back perhaps due to not bringing in a quality CB and failing to bring in Carvalho.

Getting them all in you would have to play 442 with lanzini and obiang in the middle obiang would have to be extremely disciplined and lanzini will have to drop in at times to provide an outlet. Arnautovic isn't very defensive either but realistically how long is Carroll going to be available for anyway. Also not sure on who our best cb pairing is either? Would like to see rice given a shot there perhaps in the cup after it's supposed to be his natural position he's tidy in possesion and may actually play some decent stuff out from the back without having to pass it across the back line multiple times like our current lot have been doing. Ultimately we should definitely go 442 against Bolton maybe sakho and Hernandez up top.

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17 Sep 2017 12:39:29
Spot on al.

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17 Sep 2017 14:13:15
End of the day I don't get paid to make those decisions, however I would suggest playing Carroll behind chicharito with arnautovic and Antonio out wide. Whatever happens chicharito needs to be the main striker.

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17 Sep 2017 18:08:55
Carroll and chicharito up top together would cause a lot of problems for defenders I think they both would be able to hold up the ball long enough to take abit of pressure off and give plenty time for Antonio arnautovic and lanzini to join in. Very attacking hopefully defence is gaining some confidence back.

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17 Sep 2017 21:54:06
I personally do not think Arnautovic makes our strongest 11, he is a massive liability, he is lazy and, much like Ayew and Snodgrass he appears to be a wide player with no speed.

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18 Sep 2017 00:26:33
All valid points and like I said don't disagree that Hernandez shouldn't be playing out wide. Should have said in my original post that they can all fit in, but only if we play 4 at the back. We've had a lot more success at the back end of last season and this year when we have played 3 at back.
After much continued mulling over, my personal opinion is the following for our strongest XI:

GK - Hart
CB - Reid
CB - Rice
CB - Collins
DM - Kouyate
CM - Obiang
CM - Lanzini
RW - Antonio
LW - Arnautovic
ST (deep) - Carroll
ST (up top) - Hernandez

However, this means no Zaba or Cresswell - two of my favourite players. IMO, Hart's a better choice than Adrian. I'd like to see Rice start in a back 3 - don't particularly rate Ogbonna and Fonte is utter BS despite playing OK recently. Rice is a gifted player and we need to play him if we're going to keep him. With Ginge and Reid next to him, he will learn quickly too. DM position is key for me with a back 3. Shame about Carvalho as would have been great but Kouyate is solid. Obiang would have strict instructions to boss the middle, allowing Lanzini to float and support the front 4. Antonio and Arnautovic self explanatory in terms of their positions and i'd play Carroll slightly deeper than Chicarito. Carroll winning the balls in the air and Chicarito feeding off of him would be something dangerous. I'd even consider swapping Cresswell for Arnautovic to deliver some deadly balls in to Carroll.

Like someone said earlier, it doesn't seem like the signings have been made with any particular formation in mind though. All for strength in depth but surely that has to be based on 1 or 2 formations? Not having a go just intreagued to hear what others think. Hoping for another clean sheet against Bolton!

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18 Sep 2017 08:43:23
Wow just listen to yourselves. some of these points are good but most are shocking and I beg to differ if you have actually watched any games over the last season.

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18 Sep 2017 11:26:07
i agree with a few posts on here that Bilic is concentrating on shoreing up the defence for the time being, but keeping hernandez on the field as his quality, determination, and ultimately fitness will shine through at points in games, especially while Arnautovic has been suspended I think playing him left wing/ mid has been ok.

My preference would be to keep the back 3 as we do look more solid there, and stick with the 4-2-3-1. I would play Carroll up top when fit with hernandez behind for the knock downs. This would then leave Arnautovic and Lanzini either side, as when Carroll is fit I don't feel like Lanzini needs to be too central as a fair bit of our play will be going over his head direct into Carroll. But keeping him in that attacking 3 gives him hopefully some space to pick up 2nd balls and create something. I would push Antonio to RWB as his pace in my opinion offers more options there than Zaba. Maybe a bit harsh on Zaba but I think he could also drop into the back 3 if needed, and obviously could be called into RWB if we want to push Antonio forward.

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19 Sep 2017 10:21:50
It's clear that as things stand we need to play 3 at the back.

Also, I don't buy the return of Carroll has being the thing that changed our fortunes. he's been largely ineffective in the two games he's played and it's far too simplistic to say Carroll is back and results have improved.

The biggest change has been the removal of Noble, Fernandes and Ayew from midfield which everyone could see was painfully bad.

As for team setup, I'd be looking at (current setup given injuries) :

-----------Hart

---Fonte---Reid---Ogbonna

Zaba---Obiang--Kouyate--Cresswell

--Antonio--Hernandez--Arnautovic


When Lanzini is back there are a couple of options. Either Antonio drops to wing back, and Zabaleta takes Fonte's place in the back 3 (it's useful having someone who knows the fullback position on the side of the 3 central defenders as Azpilecueta has shown at Chelsea), or he replaces Arnautovic in a straight swap.

Long term if we could get a powerhouse upgrade in CDM, I'd like to see Lanzini paired with a dominant CDM a bit like Modric plays, so he can influence the game from deep.

Lastly Carroll has to be plan B. No one wants the 'boot it at Carroll' football, his goals to games ratio is not that great and means he should never be put in front of Hernandez, and his injury record speaks for itself.

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16 Sep 2017 22:41:03
Hernandez must be wondering why he joined us. He's a world class player and should be played in his best position.

I think if bilic signed messi he would end up playing him in goal. The man is clueless.

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17 Sep 2017 07:28:06
So true hammerdave plays players out of posistion all the time mate and every one in the country saw fosters chalenge was a red but blic thinks it was a yellow . Still at least we got a point even though west brom didn't have a shot on goal until the 88th minute. Bonzo.

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17 Sep 2017 07:49:46
I really don't know why he plays players out of position, we had a left sided player and record signing on the bench and yet he plays a striker and our top goal scorer out wide, we've had it before when he played Antonio at right back, I wonder how long it will be before Sullivan tells Bilic to play his star signing in his rightful position, either that or he'll tell Bilic to do one and get someone else in who will play players where there meant to be played therefore producing better performances and results.

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17 Sep 2017 09:13:48
I'm sick and tired of seeing players misused. I don't get what bilic is trying to do. So he saved his neck has he? We should have sacked him and got Benitez who's Newcastle team are a Damn site better.

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16 Sep 2017 19:50:57
Good point but.
Whats the point in sihning chicharito and playing him left I don't get it!

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16 Sep 2017 20:16:58
Playing the star signing out of position could get him the sack, if he wants to play both Carroll and Hernandez then why not play a back four with either Obiang or Kouyate in front of the defence, Antonio and Arnautovic out wide with Lanzini (when fit) or Ayew behind the two strikers, basically a diamond formation?

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16 Sep 2017 20:29:24
I just don't get it, he's a goal poacher, he has never scored a goal from outside the box in the prem NEVER. what's he going to do out left or even cutting in?
Get him close to carroll in the box on the knock downs.

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16 Sep 2017 22:38:18
I just don't understand it. Billic clearly still thinks caroll is the main man and still sticks by him. Hernandez Is not a winger. He is a 6yard poacher. Put him where he will get goals. This just shows how he doesn't have a clue what and who to play where. By all means play Carroll as well. but play 442. Play lanzini alongside obiang in the middle.

In my opinion I would bench Carroll and use him as a super sub. Get lazini Hernandez Antonio and arnoutovic on the ball there are goals in this team. Play the right formation we will break teams down. as games fo by I just don't get how bilic is managing in this league. Its not like he's got a bad team. Man up. drop the dead wood and play our best team in the best positions.

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17 Sep 2017 07:51:15
Poor Bilic. Lose 3 games hammered. Pick up 4 points and 2 clean sheets from the next 2 games, still gets hammered. Give the guy a break.

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17 Sep 2017 08:27:25
Yea I get your point. but he spent a lot in the summer. doesn play them them in their normal positin. Its not rocket science. Hernandez I a lot better than Carroll. so why play him in a position where he can't flurish. If us fans (who aren't PL coaches) can see it why can't he.

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17 Sep 2017 09:14:11
Its not hammering bilic its a simple question. why sign a goal poacher to play left wing?

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17 Sep 2017 09:46:57
Coz at the moment it's at the other end were having issues. We've had to go back to basics to stop conceding goals. Hernandez if he is "world class" as I see someone ridiculously put, surely should be able to run on to an Andy Carroll knock down from the left hand side shouldn't he? We haven't got the guile in the side at the moment to put balls through the eye of a needle to him until we get Lanzini back. At the moment he's doing the right thing and putting the teams results first. Bilic ain't got everything right but when he sorts one thing out it seems fans get on his case about something else.

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17 Sep 2017 10:23:03
So you think Hernandez is average? He's a class player. So what you're saying is we buy a centre forward but should play him out of position. What if you did that to all the players just because he could run on to knock ons which someone has stupidly put.

What if Ronaldo or messi or amy other player was played out of position. the fans and players would again kick off

And us fans have every right to get on at the team. We pa their wages! If it was as simple as you put it then we would all be happy. We fans all see how biliv can't get tactics right and its obvious. You're deluded.

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17 Sep 2017 18:01:17
He's an excellent player, but he's not world class. Modern football these days to be a top player, you have to be flexible. How many teams do you see in world football that player with a striker who literally just scores goals in the box and nothing else like Michael owen in his pomp. No one. We've got a good selection of different types of striker for different games which is good.

Every fan has there right to an opinion, but sometimes I think people are extremely harsh and just seem to find any reason to moan because 'there a fan and they have the right" and Bilic and the team should accept it, I think people should calm down a bit at times and show a little bit more patience.

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17 Sep 2017 21:10:22
But c'mon. If we wanted a left forward we should of bought a left forward who would play there. I know we bought arnoutovic but this means that someone will have to be dropped. so who? If he wants to play caroll and a left forward like arnoutovic then you saying Hernandez to be bnch?

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18 Sep 2017 05:43:56
I reckon plenty of times he will play up top against certain teams where we can play on the counter, and I'm sure there will be plenty of days and weeks where Carroll will be injured 😂
If a month or so down the line and we still ain't solved this then definitely, Bilic has to take some blame as at the end of the day he wanted chicarito, but at the moment I think he's doing the right thing and trying to get the solid platform at the back to work from.

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16 Sep 2017 18:06:19
Happy with a point but I'd hardly call this a classic too many passes going backwards and sideways across the halfway line.

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16 Sep 2017 17:15:49
Hi fellas, good point, BUT Fostet Must be sent off surely? IRONMIKE.

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16 Sep 2017 18:04:50
Agreed. I would imagine if it had been aguero say or lucky it would certainly have been given. Any thoughts on why we aren't playing with two up front and playing chicharito out wide left? He is a world class striker is he NOT? So why play him as a winger? I don't get it.

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16 Sep 2017 18:41:57
Really surprised we didn't go 442 when collins came off. But can't complain played it safe and got a point. Boring game thanks to west Brom.

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16 Sep 2017 22:39:41
Take the point. if we played Hernandez In his normal position he may of done something.

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16 Sep 2017 16:57:16
Another clean sheet. Good result.

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