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01 Aug 2017 11:13:09
We know Slaven favours 3 at the back - and while it didn't work out with Antonio playing full back he could be an awesome wing back

This would allow Zabaletta to drop into the right side of a back 3

So we could look like:

Hart
Zab Reid Ogbonna
Antonio Obiang Kouyate Cresswell
Lanzini Arnoutavic
Cicharito

I wouldn't be surprised to see us sign Wilshere at the end of the month. Arsenal want £20 million now but he won't be worth £2 million on 1st September - and he wants to come.

billprosser

1.) 01 Aug 2017 14:01:45
HE won't be coming to WH UNLESS we can shift people out, which is looking harder by the day IRONMIKE.


2.) 01 Aug 2017 19:23:47
Personally I can't see that happening bill. Zabaleta has been brought in to play rb and give Antonio the freedom to play where he's best off.


3.) 01 Aug 2017 23:45:11
Yes Mike - the window always tightens up after the early business is done and then goes bonkers at the end and I'm sure we'll shift Snoddy and a few others out eventually

This would work to our advantage if Arsenal are still stuck with Wilshere at the end of the month.


 

 

13 Jul 2017 13:37:08
Phil may have to get a season ticket to the Riverside - looks like Braithwaite is signing for Boro!

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1.) 13 Jul 2017 14:31:54
😂 poor Phil lol.


2.) 13 Jul 2017 22:18:23
Haven't seen him post since the news must be in a bad way.


3.) 14 Jul 2017 08:57:42
phils hoping to loan him out straight away to us.


 

 

10 Jul 2017 16:56:20
People on this page don't seem to have the faintest idea how this works

Signing a player isn't like buying a house or a car where you just agree a price and it's done

You are offering a job to someone at the top of their profession (a profession with a very short lifespan) to a player who is most often from another country

These are elite athletes with many options in many different countries and every transfer they make has a very significant impact on their whole career

The players are young men and will usually have a number of options to decide from

The transfer window has only been open for 10 days and does't close for another 52 days - so they are not in a rush

Chicharito, for example, is reported to want £140k pw. But there may be a number of clubs willing to offer that (it is reported LA Galaxy have offered more - and he is Mexican and not a Londoner)

He will want to see what his options are before he signs (and his agent will be telling him he can do better)

So it is not just a question of offering him the £140k and he'll sign. We have to be patient and look at all of the options we have if our first choice decides his and his family's future lies elsewhere

Look at Chelsea - they are champions and have all the money in the world and can't get a player to sign yet

I know a bit about this because I worked for the club for 7 years (long before the current owners) and have a bit of knowledge

It is frustrating - but to be fair to the club they aren't making any noises about targets this year. And while last summer was a very bad window in the summer before they brought in Payet, Antonio, Obiang, Ogbonna and Lanzini - so that was a pretty good window!

Be patient and have faith my friends.

billprosser

1.) 10 Jul 2017 17:29:59
Cheers bill, I for one is not getting excited yet over the transfers, they will get done in time .


2.) 10 Jul 2017 18:42:18
Dear BIll, with the possible exception of a few, I think all that is known by all, and can be far more complicated than even you have explained, However WH are continuing to flit around I'm hoping that they get something done, to give other players the confidence to come in, and our fans a little relief, IRONMIKE.


 

 

04 Jul 2017 13:45:23
Everton have been very active in the market - and have made some good signings

They finished 7th last season 8 points behind Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spuds and Chelsea and they are looking to overtake some of these teams and if they want Champions League be better than 3 of them.

But how many of their new signings would make it into the teams of any of the clubs above them?

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1.) 04 Jul 2017 19:28:27
They've spent a lot of money on players that aren't top notch and they might lose lukaku.


2.) 06 Jul 2017 19:17:43
LUKAKU will a million per cent be leaving Everton that's one certainty I'll ever back.

{Ed025's Note - yes he is mate..


 

 

27 Jun 2017 17:22:47
Everyone is complaining about not getting Onyekuru - but no one had heard of him a week ago, he can't get a work permit for a year and he is coming out of the Belgian Second Division.

Chill

After a brilliant window 2 years ago (Payet, Lanzini, Antonio, Ogbonna, Obiang etc) we had a very poor window last summer - but keep the faith it's still June!

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1.) 28 Jun 2017 12:22:20
Yes Bill its still June, but the preseason starts soon and in an ideal world any new signings would be together as a squad bedding in getting to know his team mates, yes these transfer's are complicated but other teams seem to complete a lot easier than us, Of course the board should try and get the best deal for the club, but instead of identifying REALISTIC ( being the operative word) we have a list as long as the Magna Carter, as we work our way down, in my view that's pathetic, identify who they want and more importantly who may want to come to us ( REALISTIC that word again) and if you have to pay a little over the top so be it, we should be adding a few players this season to enhance the squad, but because of the immature way we went about the last window were not adding but seems like trying to rebuild. BUT we have not got the funds.


2.) 28 Jun 2017 13:28:28
It is frustrating Seymour - but there are very few transfers happening right now - it's like a house chain - they all have to fit together.

Arsenal won't release Giroud until they have got Lacazette, Lyon won't replace Lacazette until they have a replacement etc

Unlike the old days we are in a global market and its not just a case of paying more than our rivals - everyone can do that - so where does it stop.

And to be fair to the club there are no more Insider columns, no big promises - just press and social media rumours whipped up by agents - and they can't do much about that

Arsenal, Chelsea, Spuds - everyone is in the same boat - Rafa threatening to leave Newcastle because of a lack of activity - but it's just the way the market is, and these are very complicated multi million pound deals - rush them and you regret it later

And it's still June!

{Ed002's Note - Lyon have agreed to buy one striker and are talking with another after agreeing a fee for him with his club.}


3.) 28 Jun 2017 14:00:41
If you mean Traore he isn't really a replacement for Lacazette.


4.) 28 Jun 2017 14:11:58
So if Lyon start the ballrolling then things should start happening, fingers crossed.


5.) 28 Jun 2017 14:37:15
Hi Bill
I am realistic to realise that all transfers take time, and understand the house chain scenario but when does it become a point where we wait on a player to be available before all other alternatives are snapped up, and if we get gazumped like a house chain we are back in desperate mode like we was last year
When you say NO MORE insider columns I take that as no inside information coming out how the board conduct the windows, if the case I think Iron Mike on here has been spot on many times and seems to have that insider knowledge,
Maybe agreed the DGS and the son, have been quieter this year than last but for me that’s the point, I feel like I have been sold down the river with promises of top class players are at least improved players on what we have when we moved to the OS, which has not materialised, it comes across they are marketing sales for season tickets with media talk, well at least last year anyway.
In my view they are totally out of there depth in running transfer windows, they treat it like haggling at a Egyptian Souk, someone ask for a million they offer £100,00 and then the time an agreement is reached (if ever) the player has been picked up by another team, they tend to use a scatter gun approach where they bid for every player under the sun, surely a director of football is required who is experienced and know how this works, the DGS are in the big boys league now, but still approach transfers is if they were at Birmingham, where maybe they could bully the little clubs into selling cheaper because maybe they had the money. well HELLO we are now the littler club so a different approach is needed, hence an experienced Director of Football.
I am frustrated not only in the lack of signings but the way I feel we all have been taken in by the board in conning us we can sign big players, I honestly thought they were going to spend big, well at least more than usual, we should have enhanced the squad last year but instead we got desperate and the signings proved to be horrendous.
I suppose what I’m saying to sum things up, is we need someone experienced leading our transfer dealing, not 2 old men playing fantasy football, which I feel they are, after all they said they bought the club as fans but in reality they are businessman, and businessmen do not like spending money on other people judgement, especially the millions in today’s game.
Still it’s their ball to play with and they decide who captain!
Thanks for the reply Bill


6.) 28 Jun 2017 14:46:52
I hope to god that we are not dependant on what another club is doing because if we are, and then LYON decide Lacazette (bearing in mind we've been burned by this player and Lyon once before) .
We need to be getting on with our business and building a team for next season instead of waiting for others to do their business first!


7.) 28 Jun 2017 15:55:07
Supporters of almost every club are saying the same things - look on the Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea pages and it's the same as this one with different names!

When I said about the Insider I meant the page they had on the official site last year - to be fair the owners have been quiet this year.


8.) 28 Jun 2017 16:21:01
WOW, Warrington, you sound like me and we all know what happens when I air my views LMFAO :-0 people moan at me he de ha. I get your point mate, and a lot of supporters feel exactly the same and are very disgruntled. Quite rightly they voice their opinions because we they feel they have been "Sold down the River". I agree with everything you say believe me, however, we need to give these jokers the rope to hang themselves. I'm also not totally convinced with BILIC and I believe a lot is down to him. DGS have said in the past, the manager has the final say! If that's true, then Bilic has given the green light to the likes of Nordvedt, Snodgrass, Fonte to name but a few. Why as a Croatian has he not tried to use his influence and get Halilovic or Ante Coric in. Last summer was a disaster but BILIC spent half the summer in the TV Studios. I think the DGS sometimes get a bad rap when in fact a lot of the blame I believe should lie with BILIC. Yeah Yeah your all going to have a go AGAIN because you don't agree, but just think about it. They only go for players BILIC ASKS for and doesn't mull, ponder or consider moves for. BILIC wouldn't know a world class player if it walked past him. Why hasn't Bilic blooded young players and why send one of our up and coming young star players to GERMANY on Loan. If he is good enough for Borussia Moenchengladbach he HAS to be good enough for us. WTF is going on? With no youth in the team is it hardly surprising we can't attract talent and then of course players have to deal with his tantrums and refusal to play players he has had a fall out with. Is that how to manage a premier league football team and NOTHING will change until it changes at the top!


 

 

 

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02 Oct 2017 09:34:12
Antonio was RB last season not RWB - there's a big difference.

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29 Sep 2017 11:55:45
I'd like to see Zab at CB as part of a back 3 - then play Antonio as Right WB and Cresswell left with Kouyate and Obiang as the other midfielders with a front 3 of Lanzini, Arnie and Hernandez.

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15 Aug 2017 19:51:54
Hasn't he just joined Sporting on loan from Roma?

Fourth loan in 2 years inc Newcastle last year (3 apps 0 goals)

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21 Jul 2017 13:30:20
Fonte and Burke?

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17 Jul 2017 17:02:46
If the release clause is met and the player wants to go the selling club has to agree or they will be in breach of contract.

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{Ed002's Note - Rubbish, as I have just explained , you don't understand.}


 

 

 

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01 Aug 2017 23:45:11
Yes Mike - the window always tightens up after the early business is done and then goes bonkers at the end and I'm sure we'll shift Snoddy and a few others out eventually

This would work to our advantage if Arsenal are still stuck with Wilshere at the end of the month.

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17 Jul 2017 10:28:04
There are 20 teams in Serie A so it's hard to see how only 15 goalkeepers made starts.

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28 Jun 2017 15:55:07
Supporters of almost every club are saying the same things - look on the Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea pages and it's the same as this one with different names!

When I said about the Insider I meant the page they had on the official site last year - to be fair the owners have been quiet this year.

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28 Jun 2017 14:00:41
If you mean Traore he isn't really a replacement for Lacazette.

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28 Jun 2017 13:28:28
It is frustrating Seymour - but there are very few transfers happening right now - it's like a house chain - they all have to fit together.

Arsenal won't release Giroud until they have got Lacazette, Lyon won't replace Lacazette until they have a replacement etc

Unlike the old days we are in a global market and its not just a case of paying more than our rivals - everyone can do that - so where does it stop.

And to be fair to the club there are no more Insider columns, no big promises - just press and social media rumours whipped up by agents - and they can't do much about that

Arsenal, Chelsea, Spuds - everyone is in the same boat - Rafa threatening to leave Newcastle because of a lack of activity - but it's just the way the market is, and these are very complicated multi million pound deals - rush them and you regret it later

And it's still June!

billprosser

{Ed002's Note - Lyon have agreed to buy one striker and are talking with another after agreeing a fee for him with his club.}