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22 Jul 2019 17:20:10
Anyone else think the time might be right to sell Lanzini as he is in the last year of his contract and we have a lot of talent in his position?

Use the funds to strengthen at the back and maybe a good back-up striker?

billprosser

{Ed002's Note - The issue has to be fitness. Maybe a one year extension to keep value and then see how the season goes.}


1.) 22 Jul 2019 17:53:00
I think we may have seen the best of Lanzini. If we could get £15m ish then I’d sell. He looks incredibly leggy now.


2.) 22 Jul 2019 17:59:15
Not me. I’m a real fan. I’d love to see him him up with Wilshere and Fornals.


3.) 22 Jul 2019 18:33:18
*team up.


4.) 22 Jul 2019 19:54:35
You can´t play Fornals, Wilshere and Lanzini in the same team!


5.) 22 Jul 2019 20:00:57
Agree with BillProsser/ Markwhu, players rarely come back after such a serious injury to the standard they were before, have a feeling Yarmalenko may be a passenger as well? if somebody came in with £15m offer, i’d Let him go, but can’t see that offer happening? ⚒⚒.


6.) 22 Jul 2019 20:35:13
Alan shearer did!


7.) 22 Jul 2019 20:53:57
I would think Pel. would give him 5-6 games before thinking about Lanzini leaveing at his best he was up their with the best, i would give him a chance to get match fit before makeing any decision on a player worth a lot more than 15 mil before his injury. Its the same with Wiltshire a lot of fans wanted him gone but let's see how they both work out.
Also i would take a chance on A. Iwobi from Arsenal at 21 he's the right age to improve has a lot of Prem. exp. can only get better.


8.) 23 Jul 2019 07:32:16
Guyser, it’s easy to give examples of players that have overcome bad injuries, also just as easy to so the same with those that haven’t overcome them! I am not saying write Lanzini off, I said Rarely do players come back as good or consistent to previous standards, how many examples have we already had at WH, you don’t need me to name them! It’s too early at the moment to criticise even The supposedly fit players when it’s pre season, but a lot so much comes down to personality and dedication overcoming serious injury, also how long they have left on their contracts to have a prolonged holiday!


9.) 23 Jul 2019 08:44:28
Iwobi would be a good buy. I mentioned him some time back. When he played for Arsenal against us, he and Laccazette caused us problems. Iwobi’s final ball is poor, but his national side play him down the middle. I believe Arsenal would sell for £20m, and at his age he’d be a good buy. Plus he’s never injured.


10.) 23 Jul 2019 09:51:49
Whilst Lanzini was clearly rusty when he came back last season, I still saw good pace, control, vision and, most importantly, full commitment to the challenge of the tackle.

Similarly, there is nothing tentative about Wilshere’s pre-season performances.

So far, Yarmolenko’s recovery seems the most questionable.

As has been suggested above, if we’re top heavy with attacking midfielders, and/ or need to generate cash to buy in where we are lightweight, I would sell Yarmolenko well before Lanzini.

I also disagree that Fornals, Lanzini and Wilshere can’t play in the same team. If you look at Wilshere’s career stats, he has often played very deep and there was some discussion last year of of him being the ideal player to support Rice in defensive/ central mid.


11.) 23 Jul 2019 11:09:20
In my opinion Lanzini is our most creative player hopefully after a full preseason he will be back to his best playing in the hole behind Haller can't believe some fans want to sell him give a years extension then hopefully a long term contract on the money he deserves next summer.


12.) 23 Jul 2019 14:23:14
I find Lanzini frustrating, clearly he has talent but fails to deliver on a consistent basis!

Payet elevated his game and of course along with others as well in that team!

I think he tries to mimic is international team mate Messi in trying to dribble all the time which unfortunately more often than not he comes up short on!


13.) 23 Jul 2019 18:51:47
Some good points Costa, payet until the strike fiasco was possibly if not the best then certainly one of the best players I have seen in a whu shirt . Lanzini is quality but can get bullied off the ball . As for messi? Yes he plays with world class stars but even he doesn't always produce, let's see what a fit lanzini can do :)


14.) 23 Jul 2019 22:18:59
Lanzini is worth considerably more £15 million that's what you pay for decent championship players he's an ARGENTINIAN international for £30 to 40mill is right its going to take him time to get confidence that the ACL is going to hold up he would havebroken down by now if it wasnt going to hold up. COYI.


15.) 25 Jul 2019 10:46:18
Why would we want to sell Lanzini, at his best he is at least on a par with Erickson and Mata for example
Sure we seem to be stacked with creative midfielders but injuries and drops in form mean we can’t have enough .
Now we have bought a classy striker let’s make sure that he isn’t starved of decent service .
Last season when he returned was admittedly not the Lanzini we have become accustomed to, but he was out for a long time and it’s difficult to pick up where he was before the injury when only featuring in the back end of the season.
Hopefully a proper pre season will see him back to his creative best . I certainly wouldn’t give up on him .


16.) 25 Jul 2019 11:13:58
Problem is if he has a good season we could lose him for nothing next summer and we need funds now to strengthen in defence and need another striker.


17.) 25 Jul 2019 11:16:21
Personally, I’d prefer Mata or Erickson.


18.) 25 Jul 2019 16:54:57
Lanzini, Fornals and Anderson are the three Pellegrini will use behind Heller, and probably Rice and Noble/ Medel sitting behind. That is a quality set up, plenty of creativity there, to break open those packed defences that teams often play. From what I saw first half of Lanzini against Man Cty in the Asia Trophy, he has plenty to offer, maybe not at his peak yet but I think he will get there come the start of the season. Yarmalenko, Antonio, Snodgrass and Wilshire (who looks in great form could well start against Man Cty) provide quality back up.


19.) 26 Jul 2019 06:43:45
Lanzini has a 2 year extension option to the club's benefit I believe which he is currently challenging the legal veracity of.


20.) 26 Jul 2019 16:54:46
Stubbo, hmmm sounds ominous if he may be challenging it, why I wonder would he do that unless he wants away? Looking for a big money payoff maybe before his opportunities start running out? ⚒⚒⚒⚒.


21.) 27 Jul 2019 11:10:42
Pretty sure its over money from what I recall.

Think the rumour was the extension takes him up to 70k per week automatically from the 40k odd he's on, and he's obviously seen wages at the club spiral since signing that deal so believes should be getting more.


22.) 27 Jul 2019 13:54:22
If he’s going up to £70k, which, according to reports, is what we are paying Haller - that’s got to be plenty. Of the two who is likely to get more playing time this year?

Bearing in mind, admittedly through no fault of his own, he has basically just had a year on the sidelines, he needs to prove himself.

I’m a real fan of his, but, naive as it sounds, I feel he owes us at the moment.


23.) 31 Jul 2019 13:49:16
Medical advice after acl is approx 80% chance of same fitness as before or even better. So fingers crossed.


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2019 09:12:33
I am so happy for Adrian.

When he threw off his gloves before taking the decisive penalty in the shootout against Everton at Upton Park - saying he wouldn't be needing them again - was one of the top moments in the hundreds of games I went to there.

Fantastic bloke.

billprosser

1.) 18 Aug 2019 00:09:10
Hope AJETI isn't going to be a HUGILL and not be used this guys played champions league football and for a decent club he's no slouch. COYI.


 

 

09 Jul 2019 16:45:47
So it looks like Gomez is going to Valencia.

Personally I think we should respect that he isn't a mercenary and chose Valencia even though we offered him a lot more money.

And he refused to be pushed by his agent.

And respect to WH who did everything they could to get him. I wouldn't think we were able to pay the release clause in one payment or they would have.

billprosser

1.) 09 Jul 2019 17:05:37
Onwards and upwards!


2.) 09 Jul 2019 18:21:53
Balotelli on a free. No brainer.


3.) 09 Jul 2019 19:32:00
What would he want in wages? 100k a week? Sorry to ask ed but what was his last wage? ( Balotelli that is )


4.) 09 Jul 2019 20:08:03
He was on around £71K a week.


 

 

31 Mar 2019 16:31:59
Why do we perform so much better against big teams like Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool and so poorly against small teams like Wimbledon, Everton and Tottenham?

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01 Feb 2019 09:38:43
Not sure Batman chose Palace over us.
We needed to shift at least one of Perez, Hernandez or Carroll and free up a squad place and the wages to get him and those deals didn't happen.
Looks like he has gone to Palace for the money - which often doesn't work.
By the way - he is a good player but his record at Valencia this season is worse than both Perez and Hernandez with us!

billprosser

1.) 01 Feb 2019 09:58:04
Not sure about his genuine quality after failing at Chelski when we were previously interested. There’s much better out there (whom we talk about a lot and fail to get very far with) .


2.) 01 Feb 2019 12:39:08
For the money, he was not worth it at all. May do well for Palace, but they will not buy him at end of season for those wages, they have to find someone new in summer anyway. Difference is they are in a relegation battle still.


 

 

11 Jan 2019 16:08:39
It's worth remembering that we scored more goals when Arnie was injured than before or since - we've got goals all over the team now.

No one is irreplaceable.

billprosser

1.) 11 Jan 2019 17:03:31
If it means upsetting the balance of the squad is sell him BUT for the best price posdible.


2.) 11 Jan 2019 17:28:31
Agree Phil if he wants away ( for that money who can blame him ) then let him go before it becomes another circus, I wish him well .


3.) 11 Jan 2019 20:32:16
It’s worth remembering that he was a fly-by-night, inconsistent winger at Stoke and that he became a hot property once Moyes moved him to CF at West Ham.

For the brother to sell it any other way is pure b*ll*cks.


4.) 12 Jan 2019 08:49:33
Banish him to the reserves until he is sold, for the simple reason, not because he wants to leave, we are all entitled to move on, but the way he has and his brother have tried to expedite his departure! Show some dignity you petulant pair of money grabbing individuals, He was not worth what we paid Stoke for him, but was worth the risk as he had undoubted ability, his stock value has risen since DM utilised him into the central striking role!
We are better as a team without him anyway, enough said!


 

 

 

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17 Sep 2019 16:49:05
Thought Anderson tracked back well - but he slowed up play when attacking. Could this be because Yarmolenko was so off the pace that we only had Haller in the box and he was covered? Need to get more in there more quickly perhaps?

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25 Jul 2019 11:13:58
Problem is if he has a good season we could lose him for nothing next summer and we need funds now to strengthen in defence and need another striker.

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15 Apr 2019 10:15:57
Iron. Al - don't forget we bought Billy Bonds from Charlton (he played 95 times for them) - he didn't come through our youth system.

All footballers think they will be or should be starters. You don't get to where Rice is now without tremendous self-belief and he will believe he will get game time at a big club of they pay a fortune for him.

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19 Feb 2019 15:48:54
There's nothing wrong with having experienced players in the squad (Zaba has been brilliant)

Fredericks doesn't look like he is 100% up to PL standard yet but I think he'll get there

So an experienced option seems like a decent plan when we don't need to splash a lot of cash on a player in that position.

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19 Feb 2019 14:02:50
The difference between January and the summer is that we weren't able to secure a replacement in January.

Also prices are always inflated in January (for the reason above) so would Arnie's price have been.

Looks like they are going to try and get the summer business done early if they can and need to have a plan in place.

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16 Jul 2019 15:31:06
Has hardly played for us. One year left on his contract on £30k a week (£1.5 million) . Injury problems.

Better off the books tbh.

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01 Aug 2017 23:45:11
Yes Mike - the window always tightens up after the early business is done and then goes bonkers at the end and I'm sure we'll shift Snoddy and a few others out eventually

This would work to our advantage if Arsenal are still stuck with Wilshere at the end of the month.

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17 Jul 2017 10:28:04
There are 20 teams in Serie A so it's hard to see how only 15 goalkeepers made starts.

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28 Jun 2017 15:55:07
Supporters of almost every club are saying the same things - look on the Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea pages and it's the same as this one with different names!

When I said about the Insider I meant the page they had on the official site last year - to be fair the owners have been quiet this year.

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28 Jun 2017 14:00:41
If you mean Traore he isn't really a replacement for Lacazette.

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