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08 Jan 2021 13:31:58
What do we need in this window? And let's be realistic, it comes down to two positions really, and maybe a 3rd.
1 - A striker now that Haller is gone and we cannot rely on Mikey's fitness. Josh King for me would be good at the right price as he has PL experience and the right attributes. Just means we would have two strikers who have for a long part of their careers been wingers. Whoever we get, i'd like to see some PACE and strength.
2 - CM compteition/ cover for Dec and Soucek. We have been linked with Kral and Diawara, BOTH look decent. Diawara for me, but only becasue I know more about him. Ed's, any chance of these?
3 - Left back cover for Masuaku. Johnson can play there, but we need genuine left footed cover.

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{Ed002's Note - (1) Josh King (S) Newcastle have had an offer for JK rejected and offers may well be coming from West Ham and West Brom

(2) Amadou Diawara (DM) Leicester may provide an option if Roma sell. If Rice were to leave West Ham they could also look to him.
Alex Kral (DM) who would be an out-and-out Declan Rice replacement from Spartak. He shares an agent with Vladimir Coufal and there has been a dicscussion.

(3) I am not sure WHU see this as a priority. Is there nobody in the U23s who can cover?


1.) 08 Jan 2021 15:33:23
I agree Nick, a Forward, a central midfielder and a defender are probably needed.

Josh King seems like he is going to be an expensive signing this transfer window given the other clubs interested. So I am not sure he is who we'll go for. However, I would love to see us go for him or at least some one similar to him.

Alex Kral would be a great shout and he seems like a realistic option.

I am not sure a left back is the priority at the moment, I think Masuaku is the first choice left wing back and if we were to sign a centre back this window, Cresswel could potentially be used as a Masuaku back up?


2.) 08 Jan 2021 16:31:25
I’m not convinced by King, though Moyse likes PL ready made players, as opposed to those he has to wean in.

If it’s not King, then I think Moyse will push for Arnautovic. I know he’s no longer a young ‘un, but Moyse knows him inside out and he’s a centre back’s nightmare.

Coufal should give him confidence that Czech players are tough enough to put Kral firmly on the menu.

I think we’ve got enough cover in the back 4/ 5.


3.) 08 Jan 2021 16:49:29
i think we all agree J. King is who we should go for. not sure we need someone else in the back line as Masuaku will be back hopefully next week i would sooner have another mid fielder as we need cover for Dec. and Soucek but the good news is Hallar has gone i do hope he does well in the dutch legue.


4.) 08 Jan 2021 17:08:27
Bideford, you might not wish H so much luck if you read Stevie’s post on H first statement on arriving at Ajax👎👎.


5.) 08 Jan 2021 20:52:52
Personally, I don’t rate King. His injury record is not the best. We’d be better off with Giroud or Abrahams.


6.) 08 Jan 2021 21:49:03
I don't think Giroud would get the service with the way moyes sets up. I agree kings injury record isn't the best we might end up playing with makeshift strikers if him and Antonio were both injured.

Pace is what we need someone always making runs creating space for the attacking midfielders and providing an early out let. Antonio is soo good at it with his pace power and work ethic. Many times we have knocked the ball into the channels and he somehow gets on the end of it.

Definitely light in midfield soucek and rice playing 90 minutes every week and they are non stop last thing we need is an injury to either one of those.

Longelo could do a job at LWB. Was it Harrison Ashby the young RB that did well for us then for injured? i'd also like to see Coventry get some opportunities ahead of Noble.

Youd think we would have a concrete replacement lined up for Haller. Considering antonios injury record.


7.) 10 Jan 2021 09:45:02
We offered Bournemouth £13m for King last summer allegedly. He now has 6 months left on his contract, therefore the £13m would be reduced considerably to £8 or £9m. In today’s market £8-9m is small fry. At that price King is worth a wager. I’m not a fan of his, yet for the amount it’s a no brainier.
Haller makes his debut today at Ajax, what’s the odds he scores a hat-trick!


8.) 11 Jan 2021 05:14:15
What about ismalia sarr from watford plays as a winger or up front where i think its hus best position his pace is frightening i understand he's out with an ankle injury whilst playing for senegal.


 

 

28 Jul 2020 15:18:15
Rumour after rumour, crazy season is in full swing! My thoughts on OUR players, but by no means confident ANY of them will be correct, such is the unpredictability this summer.
Lanzini is unlikely to go. Moyes got great stuff out of him in his first spell and he may think he can do so again, and he has also been quoted as speaking with Montiel about WHU (the ARG right back we are heavily linked with) . For me, his best position is the one Mark plays ATM at no.10 but he can cover LW.
Yarmolenko, also unlikely to go. Moyes has used him as his no2 to Bowen and while defensively not great he does run. Some incredible one touch interplay between him and lanzini vs Villa at one point. He is also a player who can make something happen.
Anderson could well be off. His off the ball play is not a Moyes fit at all, and his style does not suit Haller, plus Diangana (free) is hot on his heels. Fornals AND Lanzini played LW ahead of him vs Villa which should tell us a lot. Unless Moyes feels he can adapt, he will be off as he is also a player we could get +20m for.
Masuaku - will be gone
Wilshere - Really do not know what Moyes can/ will do here. i'm a big advocate of playing players in their best positions and IMO we have 4 playeres all best suited to the 10 role ATM in Nobes, Lanzini, Fornals and Wilshere. Jack is not natural enough defensively to play in a CM two, he is a CAM only.
Snods - Love his effort and commitment, as will Moyes, but not sure what he can offer any more on the wing, and in CAM we are flooded. I expect just one of Yarmo or Snods to stay. Could be Snods as Yarmo would collect more money if we need funds.
Ajeti looks gone, and i'd move on Hugill also. Haller, KEEP as he needs a crack at the PL with players getting around/ beyond him and strikers are not cheap!
Fredricks - Move on if we get a new RB.
Declan - I think he will stay, as he is getting Captains experience ATM which he will not get anywhere else. If we do not get Europe tho he will be gone next summer.
Cullen - Get this kid in the squad! His attidtude is Moyes style all over, and our biggest weakness last season was the lack of a partner and cover for Dec. Nobes, Sanchez, Wilshere and Snods all not good enough there and/ or not their natural position. Now we have Soucek we have a partner, but no adequate cover for either of them. Cullen fits the bill for cover and is FREE! Fans will like him.

NIckinho_10

1.) 28 Jul 2020 19:07:29
Agree with some of that but not all:

Lanzini unfortunately is a busted flush since his injury and will continue to struggle in the PL. A move to a slower, more technically minded league would be best for all parties imo.

Cullen ain't a kid anymore, he's 24 and in all brutal honesty, if he was good enough he'd have made more of an impact on our 1st team squad by now. I think we'll sell him should an offer come in, he's decent enough to have a good career in the Championship but unless he's a late bloomer he isn't going to cut it in the PL.

As for Masuaku, Fredericks, Anderson and Wilshire, ideally we'd like to sell them all but I can't see many teams busting our door down for any of them - (maybe Anderson but at a huge loss) so there's a fair chance we'll be stuck with them, which in turn will cripple any transfer plans Moyes may have.

As for Rice, will he be a West Ham player next season? I really hope so but in all reality the first team that comes in with a bid north of £45M will get him despite protestations to the contrary from within our club.


2.) 28 Jul 2020 19:12:15
Excellent post Nick. Agree 100%.


3.) 29 Jul 2020 05:36:11
Heard Ajeti to Celtic on loan?


4.) 29 Jul 2020 13:18:03
I like most Nick but do agree with Billy perhaps Cullen will prove me wrong [i hope so] don't forget we have Grady Diangana available too which i like very much.


5.) 29 Jul 2020 18:36:51
Don’t worry still at least 5-6 weeks before we begin to get linked with unheard of South Americans who no one has heard before.


6.) 30 Jul 2020 15:15:28
BillyDWizz all very valid points on Josh Cullen. Although his contract is pretty much run out so we would not get anything for him. i'm saying we keep him as backup, it makes me think there is something in him if MP did not sell when we would have got some much needed money for him a year ago. Clearly they saw something in him and the thought was that he needed more game time. He's a battler and a runner, and has a great attitude, and that is what we need as backup in CM. Charlton fans love him and would sign him in a heartbeat, and IMO he would be better than Sanchez, Noble, Snods and Obiang all were in that role.
Any CM coming to us this summer will know they are backup to Rice and Soucek and would still cost £10-£15m, so I don't see how we get someone better who will have such a good attitude and know the club, and Josh is free!
He was in the Charloton team that got promotoed from Lg1, and IMO they would have stayed up were he not to have got injured. They won just one game in the 11 game spell when he was injured. For me, he should come in as a squad player on a 2-3 year contract as we will not get much better with our budget given requirments to improve the 1st eleven in other positions.


7.) 31 Jul 2020 22:32:59
Totally agree billywhizz CULLEN ain't a premier league player to be brutally honest he's championship at very best like you say billy we need players of the sransard of RICE and SOUCEK otherwise what's the point. COYI.


 

 

23 Jul 2020 17:23:04
Be interesting to get people's thoughts on what Moyes may do this window. I think it is the hardest one to predict in YEARS. There is so much "potential" in Wilshere, Lanzini, Anderson but will they fit the system and run the miles Moyes wants. Vs Villa i would play Haller, Anderson, Lanzini or Wilshere and Yarmolenko and just see how they get on.

For me, Masuaku must go and we must get someone pacey who works hard like Antonee Robinson or similar at LB. Cress will be good in rotation. I'd be ok with Johnson and Fredricks on the other flank given I think this window will be VERY tough going. But Fredricks does lack in crossing and movement when we have the ball.

Rice, Soucek, Cullen and one new CM/ DM would be good IMO (maybe Isaac Hayden, or if Bmth go down Billing? ) .

Looks like a CAM is part of Moyes plans and Noble currently plays there. He's OK for some games but too slow to support Haller IMO. We also have Fornals who is probably better suited to this position, and then we also have Wilshere and Lanzini. VERY crowded here ATM so I expect to see something change here.

My dream person here would be John McGinn from Villa if they go down, WHAT a player.
I am not sure where Snods fits in any more, as he isn't quick enough for wing play, and we have so many CAM's.

Personally, unless I was 100% confident in getting what i wanted from Anderson i would sell for the right price and bring in Grady Diangana. Fornals has been great out left and can continue there while Grady improves in the prem.
SELL AJETI and Hugill as soon as offers come in.

In short, SELL Masuaku, Ajeti and Hugill, and if a decent offer comes sell Anderson. BUY a LB, CM / DM and a striker (maybe loan someone like Jovic) . If possible ship some of the finge AM's and go all out on John McGinn.

NIckinho_10

1.) 23 Jul 2020 21:35:32
If we could sell haller, ajeti, Anderson masuaka and lanzini and Wilshere, i would like us to go in for the following:
Benrhama
Watkins
Eze
Lb
Cb

I'd be very happy if that happened. Obviously won't though.


2.) 23 Jul 2020 23:06:39
I’m with you Hammerdave. Get money in and lose the high rollers.


3.) 23 Jul 2020 23:15:38
Nicko the players you listed would not bring in much money transfer wise and then that team will have to match the wages. and a lot of teams will chasing free transfer and loans and a couple of buys if we sell haller and Anderson we will recoup next to nothing back haller needs another season we ain’t always going to play 4231 system everyone has said he needs support.


4.) 23 Jul 2020 23:54:43
LB needs sorting I'd get antonee Robinson in straight away as he's young and a ridiculous athlete if he can improve his passing he could be solid most of all if the papers are to be believed he's cheap!

Then if masuaku and or cresswell leave we should get Ryan Manning technical solid can also play in midfield.

Ajeti out - Benrahma or Watkins in

Lanzini out - Eze in

RB - I'd say we need to strengthen here purely because johnson and Frederick's both have had injury problems. Maybe Wague on a loan with option to buy would give us good competion/ cover here.

We have so many wingers and attacking midfielder it's silly.

I generally think it's going to come down to who we can actually get rid of without being burnt to much or of those attacking players teams might actually want?


5.) 24 Jul 2020 17:36:46
Al I brought this up about 4 years having far to many options in midfield and because most are on stupid wages they are are difficult to shift most teams knowing we have to shift the player they want a loan know we need to keep the wage bill down but that won’t help replace the player or improve the position . we just lost Jeramy ngaki spelling because of a wage cap which I understand why not add incentive bonuses. when you look at the squad those players who we could get an half decent fee for are ones we want to keep.


6.) 24 Jul 2020 21:36:01
Like i predicted that WATFORD had the hardest run in i predict that all the HALLER doubters will eat their words he needs another year uninterupted and played in the right formation and you will see a real player. COYI.


7.) 24 Jul 2020 22:59:23
Haller’s technical ability can not be argued. Sadly he is too often no where near the 6-12 yard area where we need him. If Monaco do come in with a £38m offer we should snap their hand off.


8.) 25 Jul 2020 08:57:01
So many predictions coming true. Although, pretty much everyone saw that Watford had the hardest run in. hardly a prediction. but, as your predictions are amazing, can you give me some lottery ticket numbers please?


9.) 25 Jul 2020 09:18:42
I'm against selling Haller I think he's quality. When the team was playing well he was then fabianski got injured and the whole team started defending deep to protect Roberto which meant he got no support and I think he lost momentum from a good start from then. He also looked dangerous when we had players that could get around him especially Antonio from wide then he got injured.

As for replacing him with championship strikers always a risk involved they won't step up.

BBK your right that's the problem we are going to try sell players when the market will probably be deflated. We will no doubt have to pay agents to try and shift these players.

I have a feeling maybe fornals will go I remember a story linking Napoli with interest if true and they actually want him then we can command a decent fee. I like fornals he's really put the graft in for Moyes, I think with a second season he could really start racking up the assists and create a lot of chances but i do think moyes might prefure someone more physical imposing or with abit of pace so if a decent offer comes in I wouldn't be suprised to see him go.

Aa for lanzini Anderson yarmolenko they aren't bad players and we know they can do the business at this level but for the wages they are they can't be sitting on the bench as impact subs lime yarmolenko has been. Lanzini you hate to see it but his recovery has been a slow one and rightly so but can we afford to gold onto him and hope that he reaches precious levels? Probably not.

As for Anderson he was quality first season for Pellegrini this season not so great but you could make the argument he had to track back far too much to cover weak fullbacks when he really should be played as a winger. The whole team has been shocking for large parts of the season.

Ajeti obviously needs game time but he isn't going to get it here.

I'm suprised everyone wants rid or balbuena he's not a bad 3rd choice CB or the players we've been linked to much better? Considering we have to buy to sell we haven't got a great deal to spend on upgrades.


10.) 25 Jul 2020 12:10:17
Al, what a great post . voice of reason. We started this season really well and we finished this season really well, it was the middle when Roberto was in goal that cost us massively. 24 points lost from winning positions, how many did he cost us? We’ve had 2 great signings in January and to be honest think we need replacement full backs and that will do. I don’t care that we have expensive players warming the bench as it shows that we have quality in the squad, not just the starting 11. Why replace proven quality like Haller with someone like Watkins when we don’t know if they can perform at that level. Haller will come good next season and is still young, if you want to sell him do it in a couple of seasons when his value has doubled or tripled if you must. As for the Noble hater on here did you watch his performance against Utd on Wednesday when he out ran, out tackled, out passed and out performed Pogba? He ain't got no legs no more . my backside!


11.) 25 Jul 2020 14:56:30
Haller, Lanzini, Anderson, ect have a lot of potential but these players caused the problems. Portential don't win matches. Haller might come good in fact all 3 might come good but do we want to wait and see if they perform as they should.


12.) 26 Jul 2020 10:30:42
Thanks Dabber. I agree having these players on the bench does show we have good depth, I remember a few people saying start of the season it was the strongest squad we have had in the premier league unfortunately it's to over crowded with attacking players which left holes and weakness in other parts of the squad. Also those players are on really high wages I think Anderson's wages are double than a lot of who is actually starting maybe that could cause problems and i doubt the board would want that.

I think the key to if they will be pushed out and sold will be if Moyes thinks they won't put the hard yards in and obviously if anyone else wants them.

I don't think we need a panick fire sale just some tweaks and a rebalancing of the squad. Better full backs particularly Lb. An upgrade on Ajeti. Funded by his sale and a same of lanzini and or yarmolenko would be my choice.

I just hope we don't sell Rice need to see him and Soucek complete a full season in midfield.


13.) 26 Jul 2020 12:18:24
Hi Al

I think Xande Silva Or even Hughill would be my upgrade on Ajeti and I’d keep Diagana as back up to Bowen. We definitely need defensive improvement at full back and another quality CB wouldn’t go amiss. I’d keep Yarmelenko on the basis he can turn matches and has shown glimpses of true quality. Lanzini, Anderson, Balbuena and Ajeti would arguably generate £35-£45 m funds giving us £12-15m each on a RB, LB and CB from the Championship. On another note I can’t believe the bookies have made Villa favourites today . how rude!


14.) 26 Jul 2020 16:05:12
Hopefully we see silva today. I'm thinking with balbuena if you put him in the championship wouldn't he be one of the best CBs there? If we can sign a good young CB as replacement I would but i wouldn't say we are desperate. I'd imagine rice is going to have to be cover there if we get injuries.

I'd give up hugill and ajeti for a good championship striker but I wouldn't sell haller to fund them.

It seems like 1 or 2 of yarmo anderson or lanzini will be going to fund where moyes thinks we need strengthening. Guess we will have to wait and see will be interesting to see what happens.


 

 

12 Dec 2018 17:13:21
Interested to know what everyone HONESTLY expects us to do in the Jan window?

My thoughts:
MP's mentality will always mean progress, even if we are effectively safe by Jan as he will be targeting 6th. Ironmike will be better at explaining what finances we have, and where we are with FFP, but i suspect we have to move players on before we can make permanent signings and accommodate Rice's pay rise.
Realistically, I see him improving SQUAD quality in a couple positions, UNLESS MP has an opportunity on someone he specifically wants for his long term plan.
Left back is the main issue. Masuaku is not good enough defensively. Sell if an offer comes and expect a young, or temporary addition (e. g. Monreal) to come and challenge Cresswell.
Oxford looks like he is going, and with Zaba retiring at end of season, and Fredricks injured, expect a RB to be on the cards.
Cover for Declan. With Sanchez out for the season and Ogbonna our only backup at CB then a backup DM is important. Interesting that Yaya Toure has had his pay-as-you-play contract cancelled amidst the Turkish financial crisis. Maybe a temporary option until end of season when Sanchez returns? We may well see reports of him training with us before the new year as his family is in London.
Creative player cover. With Snodders and Anderson our only established technical players fit, i expect Nasri to come in to provide depth and cover here. I do not expect us to spend big on anyone else here as we have Yarmolenko and Lanzini still to come back, and 3 very good youngsters in Diangana, Holland and Silva coming through.
Up front, I only see movement here if we sell players. Arnie rumours may be true, although i am not sure which club will want him RIGHT NOW. Many clubs need a Caroll in Jan, and we could see him go on loan until his contract runs out freeing up some salary.
Out - Oxford, Masuaku, Antonio, Caroll
In - RB, LB, Nasri, DM and Rice TO SIGN!
If funds available, MAYBE bigger signing.

NIckinho_10

1.) 12 Dec 2018 18:17:42
I would go along with that Nickinho. It's a long shot to expect 6th place with current squad, much will depend on what budget Pellegrini has to play with when the window opens. Yarmalenko, Wilshire and Lanzini is a big loss but players have stepped up that have come in. If I was to be critical on team performances it has to be the tendency to step off the gas in periods of the game, allowing the opposition to take control. Pellegrini's philosophy is, if the opposition hasn't got the ball they can't score, and I've noticed that in recent matches the possession stats have taken a dive, not drastically, but enough to tell you that the team is conceding too much possession. Better opposition in those last three games would have taken advantage.


2.) 12 Dec 2018 19:37:24
I would personally love us to try and sign Kieran Tierney I think he is fantastic, versatile and is a leader. Though I may be being unrealistically ambitious and he may have no interest in us.


3.) 13 Dec 2018 00:24:29
Nice post Nickinho I think you have covered all the main points here, IT WAS the idea originally to have another spendfest this coming summer however injuries, and poor performances by some players demand more urgent attention, we don’t have to sell anybody to buy a couple of players as close to 35 m can be available However WH will look to sell on and reduce wage bill or at least keep it under control. IRONMIKE.


4.) 13 Dec 2018 00:30:41
Not much point in loaning out Carroll he can help us when available I'f someone's that desperate to need him in January they can buy him.

He seems to come back play a few games then get injured but he always seems to make an impact, but yes I would sell we still have an option at the end of the season and we know if he can stay fit what an asset he can be. More likely a sale than a loan.


5.) 13 Dec 2018 09:05:41
Lb- k Tierney
Rb- n clyne
Cm- a duncan
S- y poulson.


6.) 13 Dec 2018 12:51:05
Well written post Nichinho.
I, too, think that Nasri might be our only recruit in January. Your points about our full backs make good sense, but my gut tells me that only Oxford will leave if we get a decent offer.
Our full squad, when all our fit, covers most bases and I am optimistic that we are on course for a top 10 finish.
The summer spending was so extensive that we won’t spend this window. I would really have liked Almiron to come in, but can’t see it happening realistically.
I’m sure that MP will not move Carroll on, as he’s good cover for Arnie, who l also think will stay at least until the summer - at which time there may be a major shake up in our strikers.
MP and Husillos will be constantly scouting for the players he wants in the summer to make the squad increasingly his.


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2020 14:57:16
So Leeds tonight will be a TOUGH game to call. They are so tactically versatile, BUT they are subject to counters (due to their high press) and that has been our strength this year.

Ideally, we would have Antonio, but even with him we would need to use our wingers offensively. The key is to make sure they do not get pinned back defensively, and allow them to counter QUICKLY.

Reign in the wingbacks Coufal and whoever plays LWB to play deeper, and allow the wide players feedom to get higher and behind their fullbacks in order to offer us additional out ball options to break their high press. Playing one up top in Haller as our only out ball will NOT work as Leeds only have to close off one option. An isolated lone striker will not work.
Masuaku is injured, and Leeds attack a lot down their right so this replacement decision is important.

Alternatively, play the same way Spurs have this season. Play 4 at the back, Soucek and Rice sitting deep with Fornals/ Lanzini as the extra CM who can pick a quick pass to our front 3. This protects our CM from a Leeds overload, and leaves Bowen and Benrahma free to focus on attacking and getting beyond our striker. The Spurs tactic that is working so well this season relies on the wide AM's to get beyond and around Kane, something many say we should be doing for Haller.

I'm not saying these are the only ways we should play to beat them, IMO the main thing is to ensure we have more than one out ball in order to be able to break their press and counter well.

NIckinho_10

1.) 11 Dec 2020 15:41:15
I don’t think Leeds have their first choice center backs available so we’ve got to exploit that.


2.) 11 Dec 2020 19:20:41
Nickinho for next WHUFC manager.


3.) 11 Dec 2020 19:40:48
Sounds like the formation is changed with Benhrama in.


 

 

07 Dec 2020 11:21:39
Calmed down after the weekend now.
Saw a comment from TKHammer that i completely agree with, IMO it was our fault we lost dispite battering Man Utd, albeit with a HUGE help from shocking officiating.
I said a while back that we lack ruthlessness and end product in final 3rd, and the Bowen miss, Fornals miss and Haller slip showed that once AGAIN. Bowen and Fornals have been incredible for us, but they cannot be shoe-ins if they miss these opportunities, and Lanzini and Benrahma should be starting games. Competition sets a higher bar, and we need to raise that bar.
The first UTD goal was shocking and certainly changed the body language of both sides and subsequently the whole game. How does a linesman miss that! And as for VAR, i get that they do not have the tech to SHOW it verbatim and therefore couldn't weigh in, but WHY don't THEY! You just need to look at the angle it comes back on the pitch and draw an arc!
What was dissapointing though was the drop in our players after that goal, and most importantly tactically why we kept a high line when Rashford came on for Cavani. It was CLEAR what they wanted to do and Moyes didn't adapt the defensive line, and subsequently let them do it.
Positive in that we bettered utd, and our players on the whole were very good, but some small improvements could make us so much better.

NIckinho_10

1.) 07 Dec 2020 21:07:29
I think Benhrama and Lanzini are less strong defensively and Moyes likes players who can defend before all else. Not saying he is wrong as we definitely look more solid and should win more than we did before, but players will need to accept it and work hard in defence and is why Haller is struggling I think as the setup doesn’t suit him.


2.) 07 Dec 2020 21:59:22
Sdl, I think you must be related to Haller or are you his agent😂🤣⚒⚒⚒.


3.) 08 Dec 2020 03:31:22
Chelmsford you caught me out, he is my much younger brother 😂😂😂

In truth I’m coming around to the fact he might not ever work at West Ham but I still know how good he is and we would really lose a talented player but if we are never going to play to his strengths then so be it. As I said before we were after an out and out striker and then last minute bought a player that doesn’t play that role and can’t and then criticise him for it.


4.) 08 Dec 2020 08:31:28
🤣🤣Sdl, that’s a a fair comment, my last word is, unfortunately for me, he has no strengths to play to!
Work rate and basic skills are awful for a Premiership player, players should adapt or at least try.


5.) 08 Dec 2020 09:45:46
Thanks Nick - i'm glad somebody agrees with me!

I still think Haller is a good player, I just think, with the system we're playing at the moment he needs to drop deeper. Instead of trying to flick the ball on he needs to come deeper, hold the ball up and bring Bowen, Fornals and Arthur into the game. He has good close control and can hold players off.

There is no sense in him standing up top and challenging for headers which land at the feet of defenders. If he comes short, and gets involved in the play slightly deeper, you'll see a completely different player.


6.) 08 Dec 2020 11:54:38
I agree that Lanzini and Benrahma are less adept defensively, and Moyes prefers to be cautious (not to the extent of Allardyce though), but what i hope is that we can still achieve balance by changing just one of them maybe. I think dropping fornals would spur him on a bit more, and i still think his BEST position is central opposed to wide. Age old problem on whether to change something that is working. What we have is working good but a change could make us even better, or potentially worse. For me, change just one and see what happens.
Personally, i would LOVE to see Antonio, Haller and one of Fornals, Bowen, Benrahma or Lanzini supporting behind. Give it a go for 4 matches and if that doesn't work then Haller is a no go, but the times Antonio and Haller have played together we have been very good. I'd also encourage Bowen to go higher up in support of Haller and use Fornals's work rate in a central position more.
I also completely agree with Sdl, Haller must go if Moyes does not want to play that formation. Not Moyes fault or Hallers, just the product of changing managers and systems.
Just a though, does anyone thing Snodgrass would do a good job as LWB to compete with Masuaku? I feel Arthur is taking his position for granted as we have no natural left footed competition there.


7.) 08 Dec 2020 16:23:41
Snoddy at LWB? Not for me. He lacks the pace to play there and has even less defensive nous than Masuaku does! We do have an option for competition at LWB in the shape of Manny Longelo.

From what I've seen of him - and I'll admit it's not an awful lot, he looks a really promising prospect and seems like he can maraud up and down the left all day long. He can play LB, LM and LW so LWB shouldn't faze him in the slightest. I really hope he gets a crack at the 1st team squad like Ben Johnson has.


 

 

23 Nov 2020 10:23:44
Big win for us on Sunday. Credit to Moyes for building a team full of grit and determination. The players all played very well. Few comments though.
We need to be more ruthless. Soucek missed a good chance, Rice could have done better when he hit the bar, and Haller certainly should have scored from Masuaku's cross. We need to be consistenlty coverting at LEAST one in three of our opps of this level. Instead of killing the game, we won it by a thread despite dominating. 3pts was great, but if we want to move to the infamous next level we need to be as ruthless as Spurs currently are. Note: look at how Son gets AHEAD/ BEYOND Kane, we need players to do make those runs when we play with Haller.
Bowen and Fornals were fantastic again in their efforts, but poor in the final third. Both had moments when they should have passed early when Haller was in great positions to score. I'd like to see ONE of them rested vs Aston Villa. Lanzini was MUCH better IMO when he came on, or maybe Benrahma could get some starting time.
Masuaku was great until we scored, he then showed 3-4 moments of unforgiveable complacency at just 1-0 up. Were he to improve here, he'd be incredible and a sure fave of mine. Amazing what a small change in system can do for a player eh.
None of this is supposed to take away from a great performance from all the players. Just areas I think we can improve even further. Rice and Ogbonna though were FANTASTIC!

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1.) 23 Nov 2020 16:55:29
Ogbonna was terrific and Rice is already a superstar. (See below) .


2.) 23 Nov 2020 20:54:46
Ogbonna has been excellent for the last year. Anyone who’s been centre back for Italy and Juventus knows how to defend.


3.) 24 Nov 2020 07:47:27
Always been an Ogbonna fan👍Needless to say in Rice he has now become world class, read a quote where he apparently said “ being rejected by Chelsea was one of the best things that happened to him” Let’s hope that means he is happy to stay a Hammer? In life the grass can often look greener elsewhere, until you try it!
The whole team are playing excellent with lots of energy and creativity, some are outstanding as there always will be in any side, think Bowen is terrific, always a threat for us, but midfield and defence great, we+can feel confident in any game providing we can stay injury free! ⚒⚒⚒.


 

 

02 Nov 2020 10:35:13
I think it is VERY unfair to judge Haller on the appearance vs Liverpool. We have all said many times that he is NOT a lone striker, and this is especially evident against teams like Liverpool where the isolated lone big/ slow striker is USELESS no matter how good they are. Playimg him in this role in this fixture and then judging him on it is like playing Fabianski as a striker and then concluding he is terrible. Masuaku is also a clear example of how a player in the CORRECT role can be extemely good. Despite this, Haller did incredibly well to set up a chance that would have put us 2-1 up but for a rushed shot from Fornals when sliding it to Bowen would have been better.
Fact is Haller needs a runner like Antonio playing beyond him. Not long ago we all wowed at how good Antonio and Haller played TOGETHER up front, and destoyed what was a good Soton team playing well (look where they are now) . We don't even have to adapt massively to make it work. Bowen and Fornals have had a LOT of defending to do in recent games due to the calibre of the opposition. Vs Fulham our back 5 with Rice AND Soucek infront of them should not need this much extra support from our wingers (if they do then we have a defensive problem) and we can therefore get one them close to Haller and the other beyond Haller.
Lots of people are also saying we have a system that works so we should not change, well yes it has worked against the better teams, will it work against the weaker ones and/ or without Antonio. We do not have 2 Antonio's, so logic would dictate that we HAVE to change something until he is back or we have a back up who can play the same style. Personally, I would have played a striker (Bowen/ Lanzini) beyond Haller to stretch play vs Liverpool, but I completely accept Moyes's more conservative/ defensive approach given the calibre of Liverpool and given recent results (and it nearly worked) . But it left us playing Allardyce ball which I cannot stand, and will not accept vs teams around us. I would like him to show some balls and get someone playing the no.9 role with Haller (or Yarmo) until Antonio is back.

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1.) 02 Nov 2020 10:49:56
I couldn’t have said it better.


2.) 02 Nov 2020 18:34:31
You can defend the fact he was terrible because he doesn't have some one alongside him to make him look good, but nobody can defend the complete lack of effort and interest he shows . we cannot change our whole system for a player that has such a poor attitude.


3.) 03 Nov 2020 00:07:06
Fans will suffer anything, yet one thing they won’t suffer is lack of effort. Haller offers us NOTHING. A £45 million player should not be bullied by a player making his debut.


4.) 03 Nov 2020 10:12:49
Every player has their weaknesses, and Haller's is his pace. Therefore he is NOT going to be making lung busting runs like Antonio, and therefore can easily be falsely construed as lazy. He is asked to play a role that he simply does not have the physical attributes to do. Its like me asking 5ft tall person to fetch a jar from a shelf that is 10ft high without offering him a step ladder, and saying he is useless because a 6ft4 person could do it without the help. I'd think that would be fairly demoralising, and Haller clearly looked de-moralized vs Liverpool as he was given an impossible task given his attributes. Moyes prioritized defensive solidarity over getting more out of Haller, and he had every right to do so vs a team like Liverpool.
Antonio's weakness, in contrast, is his finishing, final ball and decision making, often he does something incredible followed by a ball flying into the stands or runs it too far. How many people criticised him for this in the past, but now a change in his role and suddenly his strengths are more effective and we all say he is brilliant. He has not changed, his ROLE has, Arnie was similar.
I accept the point that teams should not change a whole system for one player, but my point is that we only need to make SMALL tweaks now to make it work with Haller. Moving to 3 at the back with wing backs has changed the system already, and i have many times said that this is our best BASE fomation given the players we have, and we can keep this in place. You cannot tell me though that we should play the same tactics that we played against Liverpol when we play Fulham, WBA, Burnley, Brighton etc. I won't accept Allardyce ball againts these teams when we CAN adjust and free up Bowen and Fornals and afford to go 2 up top and take the game to them more. Adaptability is also VERY good, otherwise teams work out our one way of playing and soon it becomes ineffective.
Against Liverpool you get a free pass to go ultra defensive. Against other teams though Moyes needs to tweak his front 3 to get the best out of what he has, at LEAST until he can change the peronell available to him in a transfer window.


5.) 03 Nov 2020 15:14:40
Iain dowse had no pace but you could tell he was trying, everything about haller body language screams he doesn't care, nothing to do with lack of pace if he loses the ball which he does all the time he just stands there no effort to win it back, he's about as mobile as a traffic cone, part of that is pace but most is attitude.


6.) 03 Nov 2020 20:47:55
If you ever watched him in the Bundesliga, and I’m assuming most still in the UK don’t watch Bundesliga?, he has exceptional touch and skill but played with players running on and past him. He scored spectacular goals but also played lots of players in with sublime touches as the ran past him. For West Gam there are few times players get tight and run past him. The attack is spread wide and the balls into the forward are normally 30-40 yard passes. I understand Moyes playing the defensive way he has but against the sides around us we need to play with a number 10 and have more of the ball, the wingers get tighter or midfielders run on, and then Halley should flourish.


7.) 04 Nov 2020 07:25:38
Why do so many fans over complicate the game of Football, when I look at some of the suggested “tactics” I am quite bemused! It’s a bloody simple game, keep it simple!
If you can’t adapt to teamwork, you don’t show determination of some sort, you have a bad attitude, you affect the whole team and you will lose respect of all your team mates and those around you, especially your Manager and fans, it simply makes you a non team player! Then you can no longer expect to have a place in the team?

You make your own luck, you work for it, the PL is to fast to stop and think a lot of the time, you play on your instincts, .
Haller has no attributes shown so far for PL football, time to stop making excuses, let him impress us, not keep going back to how good he should be, or how he was with his last club, most fans surely are not interested in that?
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8.) 04 Nov 2020 10:04:16
And that is why countries like Germany win because England still think it’s a simple game. Sorry but it isn’t a simple game and getting tactics right is complicated. Sorry but I disagree, to each their own. It’s okay I think we both want West ham to prosper so not divided on that, just different views on how to get there.


9.) 04 Nov 2020 13:10:56
Sdl, agree mate👍Each to their own, don’t want to get in a civil war of words with Haller fans🤣😂I will try really hard to refrain from to any favourable Haller quote😲but can’t guarantee it🤭I’m sure somebody will tempt me🤣😂⚒⚒⚒⚒.


10.) 07 Nov 2020 10:00:18
There are many supporters of Haller on here, I’m not one of them.
Question, and this is for the Haller fan club? If we were offered £35 million for him now, would you take it?


11.) 07 Nov 2020 13:10:06
If we can get haller up to the level he was at for frankfurt from now up until January then no I wouldn't take that.

If we can't then yes providing we would actually get a suitable replacement that will fit the style of play.


 

 

29 Oct 2020 09:36:34
Lots talking about what we do up top with Antonio not fit, and for me I think Moyes has a great OPPORTUNITY to show he is a top manager in this moment. He has maybe 2 choices.
1. Play someone out of position in Antonio's role. We have nobody who can do this effectively enough though as Haller is NOT this player, and Bowen/ Yarmo will not do it well enough. My Worry is Moyes will do this to send a message to the board, saying "i needed Watkins/ King in the transfer window". I'd be dissapointed if Moyes chooses this option as it chooses club politics over getting the best out of what we have, and demonstrates a lack of adabpability in the squad/ manager.
2. ADAPT OUR FORWARD PLAY. Get Haller on and play him in a role that he thrives in. Recieving deep/ wide and getting players close and beyond him. Just study the Frankfurt style and replicate the Jovic+Haller+Rebic magic triangle. We have PLENTY of players who can play the Rebic role in Benrahma/ Fornals/ Lanzini, just need to fill the Jovic role. I admit, it still means playing someone out of position with Yarmo/ Bowen/ Lanzini in the Jovic role, but this role is easier for them to replicate (given the individual attributes these players have) than asking someone to replicate Antonio's pace and power (which requires very specific physical attributes that we do not have in anyone else) .
We have done well with Antonio vs the GOOD teams where we will be pinned back and have less possession. We WILL need an alternative option vs the teams around us though, and this is an OPPORTUNITY to give us a plan B in how we break teams down.
Ok, even with Antonio we have little chance vs Liverpool, but they are indeed vulnerable right now. A different style of play would be somehting they CANNOT prepare well for, and could catch them off guard and maybe give us a result like Villa got against them. Get those skillful players on!

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1.) 31 Oct 2020 11:26:13
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25 Jan 2021 11:57:58
I do like Josh, but no way is he worth what is quoted:
- Age (29)
- Contract expires in summer
- Wage demands 120k is ludicrous. I can imagine him getting near that when he is free, but paying 10m-16m AND 120k a week is not a good financial deal for anyone.
- performance stats. Unfortunately for him, he has moved positions a lot and never solitified himself as a lone striker. I believe he could do it well but there is risk involved with no guarantee, which means a dropped price.
For me, i'd pay £7m-£10m but a salary of 60k-70k MAX with some goal/ appearance bonuses, as he is on 45kish now. Sounds like we are nowhere near this.
Josh King will be the one losing out here, he could do well for us and i think he would be a good fit for the right price.
Regardless who we get, i just hope it is the right type of player AND they are someone Moyes wants. Getting no striker would be a mistake, but it would be a bigger mistake to get a player who is wrong for us and the PL.

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19 Jan 2021 14:23:46
Agree to some degree Chelms, I would HATE for us to rush into a player that turns out to have NONE of the attributes we need (Hugill rings a bell) . I think Moyes is wiser now and he has already stated he wants PACE which is a relief. This said, I do not want us spending big on someone in this C.V. era, £20m is a real push/ risk for me. Personally I do not think we can stretch that far on one player, as we need a CM as well. So the Haller money needs to stretch over 2 players really, wise spending not BIG spending.
The point I disagree with is that we could cope without another striker as we are safe from relegation. I agree we are safe, but if we slip away from Europe this season then our star players Rice and Soucek WILL have offers and WILL be tempted if we are not close enough to Europe. We need to progress or we stand to lose these players.
Odubeko has talent but i doubt he is ready just yet (maybe we will see more vs Doncaster) and I'd love to see more of him as we need a striker urgently. We have been brilliant this season, but to get into Europe we need to score our chances. Here is some perspective; we should have been 3-0 up vs Man Utd before Pogba's goal that should have been a throw in, if we'd have won that game (and we should have) then we'd be 3 points off TOP right now. Top 4 is potentially achievable if we put away our chances. Antonio is key to our forward play ATM, and we cannot rely on his fitness so we need someone to compete.

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11 Jan 2021 15:57:01
I agree Bideford, it is important Moyes and the board choose wisely. France may be a place to pick up bargains ATM but still NO guarnatee they will transition to PL. Dia and Daka have pace and LOOK like they have the physical attributes we need, and they are young and fit the "young and hungry" RedBull mantra Moyes is after. But will they transition or just be another Batshuayi?
Josh King however does offer proven PL quality though, and at the right price i think he would be a good option for us. At 28 though he will not represent much of a return on investment once he has played two years with us. While I agree (and said myself) that he has played a lot out wide in the past (worth noting if any of you look at his scoring stats), but from going to a LOT of Bmouth games (i live here and had a season ticket to accompany my nephew) i always said to my Bmouth mates that Josh is at his BEST up front and not out wide.
I really do not know enough about the others to have a worthwhile opinion, other than Youtube vids. Maybe Ed's can lend us their opinions on whether they could cut it in the PL.

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{Ed001's Note - don't know anything about Dia, but Daka does look a bit special. Bit too fond of talking about how great he is going to become though, which worries me. If he was going to say Real Madrid, then that's not so much of a problem, but going to West Ham might see him agitate for a move because he thinks he is better than the Hammers. Bit like Arnautovic did etc.

As for Armstrong, I have seen a little bit of him this season, he has changed so much from when I saw him as a kid with Newcastle. So much improvement playing regular football and looks like the kind of player Moyes would work well with. I am not so sure King is, as he is too fragile, and Moyes likes his players to work hard, King would pop his hamstring. Armstrong looks a decent bet, though he is not one I would have expected Moyes to be so keen on as he looks short when I have seen him. Moyes normally likes a player, in pretty much every position, who is particularly good in the air.}


 

 

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08 Jan 2021 13:23:17
TBH I am delighted we are acting and not standing still in this window. Haller is still a very good footballer, BUT the guy just doesn't suit Moyes's football, and does not have the attributes we need for our system. Moyes was stubborn by not adapting slightly, but I really like to see that we are TAKING ACTION to get what Moyes wants/ needs despite taking a financial loss on Haller. Board could have easily said no we are not taking a loss this big. Credit to the BOARD and credit to MOYES. Let's hope Moyes doesn't buy another Hugill to replace him . I have faith.
I'd also like to correct fans on here who have been saying he does not work hard. You are frankly wrong in my opinion. He does work hard and run, he just doesn't have the attributes to do it the way we want/ need. For this reason I am very happy we are selling. We need PACE, and Haller simply doesn't have it. Don't ask a man to give birth!
Haller has worked hard in what has clearly been a role he cannot play, and that must be very frustrating for him but i still belive he gave it his best shot. I wish him all the best at Ajax.

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11 Dec 2020 09:42:30
I agree with Markro, I still feel that an injury to Rice or Soucek and we are stuffed.
Eriksen is quality, but doesn't play the same role as Soucek or Rice, so we'd be buying him for a central AM role, which Moyes does not play with as he seems to stick with 1 striker. A change of formation and playing Eriksen behind Antonio AND Haller would be epic, but we already have Fornals, Lanzini and Benrahma who can play there. don't see it happening.

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11 Jan 2021 17:24:50
Adam Hlozek is a fantastic talent, BUT could he suffer the same issues we had with Haller? I just don't think he looks like that lone striker who runs the channels etc with pace. He is certainly more attributed to that role than Haller was, but i'm not sure it is his main style of play.
I may be wrong, as I definately do not watch the Czech leaugue. Anybody know if he is that type of player and would work in the Moyes system as a lone striker?
Not sure where 17 goals and 18 assists so far this season is from, COYI where did you get those numbers from? I can find 7 games 4 goals and 4 assists.
Sarr got the pace height and strength, but unlike Josh King, i'm not sure he's a STRIKER. If he is keen on playing there and Moyes can get him for a good price then i'd take him. £30m is ludicrous though, and Suli would not sanction that this Jan and it leaves nothing for a Dec/ Soucek backup. We are looking £15m and below for a striker i reckon and then a CM.

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08 Dec 2020 11:54:38
I agree that Lanzini and Benrahma are less adept defensively, and Moyes prefers to be cautious (not to the extent of Allardyce though), but what i hope is that we can still achieve balance by changing just one of them maybe. I think dropping fornals would spur him on a bit more, and i still think his BEST position is central opposed to wide. Age old problem on whether to change something that is working. What we have is working good but a change could make us even better, or potentially worse. For me, change just one and see what happens.
Personally, i would LOVE to see Antonio, Haller and one of Fornals, Bowen, Benrahma or Lanzini supporting behind. Give it a go for 4 matches and if that doesn't work then Haller is a no go, but the times Antonio and Haller have played together we have been very good. I'd also encourage Bowen to go higher up in support of Haller and use Fornals's work rate in a central position more.
I also completely agree with Sdl, Haller must go if Moyes does not want to play that formation. Not Moyes fault or Hallers, just the product of changing managers and systems.
Just a though, does anyone thing Snodgrass would do a good job as LWB to compete with Masuaku? I feel Arthur is taking his position for granted as we have no natural left footed competition there.

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03 Nov 2020 10:12:49
Every player has their weaknesses, and Haller's is his pace. Therefore he is NOT going to be making lung busting runs like Antonio, and therefore can easily be falsely construed as lazy. He is asked to play a role that he simply does not have the physical attributes to do. Its like me asking 5ft tall person to fetch a jar from a shelf that is 10ft high without offering him a step ladder, and saying he is useless because a 6ft4 person could do it without the help. I'd think that would be fairly demoralising, and Haller clearly looked de-moralized vs Liverpool as he was given an impossible task given his attributes. Moyes prioritized defensive solidarity over getting more out of Haller, and he had every right to do so vs a team like Liverpool.
Antonio's weakness, in contrast, is his finishing, final ball and decision making, often he does something incredible followed by a ball flying into the stands or runs it too far. How many people criticised him for this in the past, but now a change in his role and suddenly his strengths are more effective and we all say he is brilliant. He has not changed, his ROLE has, Arnie was similar.
I accept the point that teams should not change a whole system for one player, but my point is that we only need to make SMALL tweaks now to make it work with Haller. Moving to 3 at the back with wing backs has changed the system already, and i have many times said that this is our best BASE fomation given the players we have, and we can keep this in place. You cannot tell me though that we should play the same tactics that we played against Liverpol when we play Fulham, WBA, Burnley, Brighton etc. I won't accept Allardyce ball againts these teams when we CAN adjust and free up Bowen and Fornals and afford to go 2 up top and take the game to them more. Adaptability is also VERY good, otherwise teams work out our one way of playing and soon it becomes ineffective.
Against Liverpool you get a free pass to go ultra defensive. Against other teams though Moyes needs to tweak his front 3 to get the best out of what he has, at LEAST until he can change the peronell available to him in a transfer window.

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13 Oct 2020 12:35:48
I agree Markro.
If we do get Benrahma also then i hope a fee is bonus orientated and we still have some cash to spend on a decent CDM cover.

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02 Oct 2020 09:49:00
Completely agree Whorya48, I was being polite LOL but i'm also making sure the point that fine margins are SO important in this level of football. Nobes should only be used as a no.10 or as a last 15 min EXTRA body in midfield. NEVER as a 2 man midfield, same with Wilshere.
Love Noble, he is one of us fans and I love his commitment and leadership, he is a WHU legend, but Everton have SIX players that i would play ahead of Nobes in this position.

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