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31 Jan 2018 14:57:24
This is murder, I want some concrete news, all the outlets are saying this and that, and half of me is thinking is all trash or the board are putting this out.

Will we up the bid of Dendonker?

Are they really after Silmov, if so will he take a medical in Russia?

What about Amadou see palace have offered £16m?

Now reading Hugil from Preston?

and about a trillion others being floated, Moyes said he hopes to get 2 in, if that true which 2?

Warrington Seymour

1.) 31 Jan 2018 15:02:00
Gut feeling Seymour, nothing will happen mate.

2.) 31 Jan 2018 15:03:39
Hugil from preston is the most concerning news I have heard all day.

3.) 31 Jan 2018 15:24:15
Hugill on his way for a medical apparently?

4.) 31 Jan 2018 15:28:53
Excellent preparing for life as a mid table championship team then? I mean why would the board feel hugill is the answer? Surely an international player who actually scores goals is less of a gamble than a player who has 18 goals in 87 games.

5.) 31 Jan 2018 15:29:52
Well, that's Moyes for you.

6.) 31 Jan 2018 15:30:24
No, this has to be a joke?

7.) 31 Jan 2018 15:38:46
Probably why we haven't heard from Ironmike, he can't bring himself to tell us we are spending 10million on Hugill. But hey at least it isn't a loan haha. What is more crazy is our board didn't want to sign Chris Woods because he wasn't good enough and he cost what? 15m? He was a 1 in 2 striker but they do want to sign someone who is a 1 in 4/ 5.

8.) 31 Jan 2018 17:18:31
The owners will be selling us magic beans next, because we bought everything else from them.



31 Jan 2018 11:32:54
Help!, Have I missed something?

Ayew is expected to leave today for £18m, have we a striker lined up taking a medical?

Why would we sell Ayew without replacing, surely he could stay until the summer where we still would receive £18m.

If no striker is lined up why on earth would we sell considering our injuries to front players, his not been great nor bad and we may need him at some point, I don't get it!

Warrington Seymour

1.) 31 Jan 2018 12:14:33
Mike please tell us some good news today, we will take almost anyone (not carlton cole or the other ayew though) - guy.

2.) 31 Jan 2018 12:23:15
nothing wrong with carlton cole.

3.) 31 Jan 2018 12:29:18
Its looking bleak guys n gals. Everybody is trying to do the same thing today. I still say Swap Kouyate with Fiorentina for Babacar LOL. Left it too late me thinks but hope springs eternal. We may still get SMOLOV, DENDONCKER ETC.

4.) 31 Jan 2018 12:38:51
Surely Smolov not going to happen. 5 to 6 hr flight from Russia. Then a medical to sort.

5.) 31 Jan 2018 13:08:06
Can’t see it phil . It’s all getting to late now ( and not sure if West Ham United where fully committed or not to these players, I’m thinking not )



30 Jan 2018 08:42:19
2 days to go and 29 gone and we have 1 addition to the squad. i'm not going to go down the usual deja vu route as plenty other others have made things clear on this of our failure in the windoew again

I am so worried that for what ever reasons we still have not acquired a DM which we were all screaming out for when the window began. The injuries have been unfortunate but that the way it goes and it happens,

Teams from 9th downwards ( yes including Everton as big Scam is proving his great of getting out of the mire but also just as great of dipping back in it ) all have a equal chance of finishing in the bottom 3.

Warrington Seymour

1.) 30 Jan 2018 10:24:50
A board that has made panic signings before looks set to do so again, poor planning leads to over paying for mediocrity (schneirderlin)

2.) 30 Jan 2018 10:36:12
Schneiderlin would be an upgrade on what we have but he isn't the answer long term.

Why do we keep buying players over 27 too? We need young players that are hungry, that want to improve. That way when they want to leave we make a profit and buy the next up and coming talent to replace. Doing it the way we do is farcical.

Dendocker should be snapped up for this exact reason. The same with Maddison.

3.) 30 Jan 2018 11:55:04
I think the main problem is that the owners have no footballing heritage/ contacts and rely solely on agents or Manager's contacts.
We require a Director of Football ASAP - I do not mind the double Ds wanting value for money, more mind that they keep getting ripped off.

4.) 30 Jan 2018 12:27:59
Schneiderlin won't be joining 100%.

5.) 30 Jan 2018 13:08:12
Am not sure that anyone will be joining at this rate unless we can get a really cheap loan deal. Anyone got their boots at home :-)
This should all have been done already in the past 4 weeks and now Watford, WBA to name but a few are making moves on players we were apparently linked with, the latest I hear is Shcurrle who Watford and WBA want.

6.) 30 Jan 2018 18:20:10
Who are the double Ds - Karen Brady? Oh the owners, they are meant to run the club are they not. How did they become millionaires, surely by making decisions. Like bilic was blamed for not fancying players, when we lost out on them, now Moyes does not fancy these expensive players.



26 Jan 2018 13:01:08
ssn have reported Newcastle have said Shelvey not for sale. more porkies or true? as I thought they were open to the deal once they found a replacement.

I like Shelvey, thought he would have sat well in the holding role and can certainly pass a ball and has a bit of agression.

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24 Jan 2018 08:22:07
sorry Mike this has been answered about Shelvey.

Warrington Seymour

1.) 24 Jan 2018 09:38:10
How much are we likely to get from players we sell? I reckon £18m for Reece Oxford (Figure being banded about) another £16m for Ayew, maybe £10m for Sakho and £16m for Hernandez totalling £60m and whatever the board are willing to invest so that's probably £60m and 50p :-) I read that Moyes is not convinced over Ruiz, Lots of Interest now in Clement Grenier when we had already supposedly offered him a 3 year deal, Dendoncker will only be sold for a huge fee, JOAO MARIO (well, I'm not sure how much more talking there can be)

2.) 24 Jan 2018 10:22:57
Hi Phil

Same old same old, its the 24th the window has been open 3 weeks, we have 1 week left and the usual crap policy in transfers. I know everyone points out transfer are complex and take time but come on. its the same every window.

We have no creativity now Arnie and Lanzini are out, we are going into a massive period, we have Palace Watford Brighton and Swansea in our next 5 Prem fixtures, and before you know it we could be in the bottom 3.

Although we can defend I am really worried where our creativity will come from before Lanzini Arnie, Antonio return which hopefully a few weeks for the latter two.

Hernandez will get his game time, but he needs IMO to be played as a 2 up front as his wasted trying to play the lone striker, and if Moyes does go down that route who will supply any kind of chance for him going forward?

The injuries have happened at a good time so to speak ( no good time for injuries) as we can try dip in the market to cover, but the way things are looking we maybe getting a couple of Mids and not heard of any attacking players in the window. All very worrying from my point of view.

3.) 24 Jan 2018 10:24:16
this is it phil I can't see us getting a striker in now maybe 1 in 1 out potentially 2 if they can I think we will keep hernandez. Mario will wait and see so much talk gets silly shelve again all talk but why would benitez want to sell and have no replacement also why mike Ashley isn't spending either. think its best to just wait and see what happens there's a week left to go and nothing has been confirmed so far.

4.) 24 Jan 2018 10:59:12
The games against Palace, Watford, Brighton and Swansea is our season really, we win those we stay up (with a couple of draws as well), the only way to win those games is to strengthen the squad because with the fit players we have at our disposal I can't see winning those games?

5.) 24 Jan 2018 15:04:28
Tell you what we haven't heard yet wait for it the 32 year old washed up use to be a good player on 140,000 a week four years ago who we are looking to loan because nobody else wants wait for it it's coming trust me. COYI.




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17 Apr 2018 09:11:29
I must admit even though a point is not the end of the world I did expect a positive result last night, but it just goes to show we are where we are because we deserve to be in that position.

We have a 7 point cushion which means out of four games Stoke have left ( Home Palace, Burnley, Away Liverpool Swansea), they need at least 2 wins and a draw to get level but with a goal difference of -33 reality they need 3 wins from 4, or 2 wins 2 draws which is a tall order.

Southampton who are starting to play well under Hughes albeit the results not going there way.

They have 5 games as we do ( Home B, mouth Man C Away, Leicester Everton Swansea), the good is 2 worst than ours . Again a tall order, they have only I think won 2 games away all season in Prem,

Its going to be tight but hopefully we may just scrape through even without picking up any more points which is unthinkable, but worrying all the same. We should never be in this position in the first place but it it what it is.

We have Arsenal Sunday who play in the Europa on Thursday and as they are not going anywhere in the Prem it may benefit us.

Warrington Seymour

1.) 17 Apr 2018 10:36:25
My only concern with Sunday Seymour is that arsenal have been very poor last couple of games and are due to put in a decent performance, this game is one that may have come a week or two late for us . But I am allways hopefull :)

2.) 17 Apr 2018 11:25:16
Hi Jason

Arsenal have been poor, but I can't see him playing his big guns for a pointless match with such an important games on Thursday, My worry is Moyes may be thinking that a point would be great which will restrict us and no doubt play deeper than the Atlantic.

Southampton play at Leicester Thursday night and than the FA cup semi against Chelski on Sunday, I think Hughes will play his strongest team Thursday and Sunday match is a bonus,

If Stoke lose at home to Burnley, Stoke would have to win their last 3 matches to go past us, 2 wins and a draw with their goal difference would not be good enough unless we get absolutely hammered in our games.

That leaves Southampton, should they lose away at Leicester than they would need to win 2 and a draw to equal our points, this is all providing we lose every match for the rest of the season.

Bloody hell this is ridiculous, playing on ifs and buts to stay in the Division, I know Moyes has steadied the ship but we should be out of trouble by now, his be in charge 6 months.

3.) 17 Apr 2018 11:55:22
Another season that never got going, injuries upon injuries, Tatics that don’t work and sad to say some players that have not left it all there, combined with a bridge crew made up of admirals with no idea and no real thought of genuine change . Oh well COYIS :)

4.) 18 Apr 2018 14:52:22
Lets be honest none of these players are actually Moyes choice. He has done well to get a tune out of them with Slav this squad would have been down by now. The squad is lacking quality in most departments and this summer there needs to be a massive clearout starting with Carroll (5 games a season is not acceptable) Reid a mistake every game, Noble legs are treading water and I could go on. Time for some investment in the team to match the stadium, Upton Park has gone we have to draw a line in the sand and move forward. Over 50 years supporting the hammers and it never gets any easier but I like all of you I wouldn't swap it for any other team. COYI.

5.) 18 Apr 2018 15:39:10
When teams like CHELSEA AND ARSENAL are vulnerable you have to go for it and forms Moyes is too defensive I understand when you are down the bottom your tactics change but a point ain't going to make much difference but 3 will and why I got negative vibes from a few we should definitely gone for it against Stoke as they are average at best and is it a coincidence that when against Chelsea and Stoke when we played with two up front and attacking football we looked a better side by a mile and why I can't guarantee we would have won or lost both games there is a big chance we would have beaten Stoke and maybe Chelsea.

6.) 18 Apr 2018 17:51:33
Whilst I disagreed with your tactics against Chelsea I agreed with them regarding Stoke. Moyes mucked up there a bit.

7.) 18 Apr 2018 23:23:52
your probably right dave but I get so angry because Chelsea were vulnerable but I get what you mean because CHELSEA have got the players to hurt you but thoughrt STOKE were very poor and we should have won that game but one more point and I think we are ok mate.

8.) 19 Apr 2018 17:59:49
Yea I understand totally about the Chelsea comment they could of gone for it. For all we know that point might save us or those 2 points lost might have doomed us. It's difficult to say. What is 100% we can both agree on is our owners are shocking. It's only a matter of time before we go to the championship.



03 Apr 2018 09:16:55
Pheww a much need 3 points on Saturday . I have looked at the table and fixtures and honestly think 1 more win will keep us up, had a quick look at table and fixtures and although you would be crazy to try predict football results below are the max points I feel other teams will get. i'm not bothering with WBA

Southampton 5 points. 33 points
Stoke 8 points. 35 points
Huddl'field 6 points.37 points
Swansea 7 points.38 points
Westham 7 points.40 points

So its WBA, Stoke and Southampton for me going down.

Warrington Seymour

1.) 03 Apr 2018 11:43:30
It’s a lottery mate, let’s keep our fingers crossed .

2.) 09 apr 2018 19:42:25
i think west bromwich, hddersfield and southampton will go .



13 Mar 2018 11:21:14
What a complete and utter mess this has come down to.

Although I don't agree how the board have gone about the transfers which seems to be the biggest gripe in all of this, there is no excuse what's so ever at the disgraceful scenes on Saturday. No matter how frustrated some fans are thuggery will never solve anything. As much as the board seem thick skinned i'm sure they would have noted the frustration of the fans and they need to change, not necessary how they want to run the club as after all they are the major shareholders but in the way they are perceived, i'm sure there are other club owners just as bad as these two but they the DGS don't do themselves any favours by their communication via social media. so where do we go from here?

Firstly there needs to be a truce between the board and fans, I can't see how we can carry on with all the negativity surrounding the club, it does not help anybody, the manager, the team the board and fans. IMO the board should come out and admit that they have got things wrong in how they have gone about transfers and explain how in the future how this will change, they should also admit that things they promised about the new stadium which has not happened explain why, and / or how certain things can be rectified, at least that may be a start,

Im not asking them to grovel to the fans as after all its their business but maybe acknowledge where they have gone wrong, which i'm sure even to them may have to admit. The partnership between the board and the fans is so important and it needs resolving ASAP. Fans do have a right to be frustrated, if the fans are unaware of certain facts in why certain things have not happened the board should explain, rather than let the fans imagine which leads to all this negativity.

If we do take the drop I for one would not be that unhappy if Moyes decided to go, he may be a disciplinarian, he may get the players as fit as possible, but for me he has a negativity in his style of play, it just doesn't fit with me, of course we are never going to be a Man C but certain managers have a style of picking up the desired result and Moyes Pulis and Big Scam in my view are 3 peas in a pod, and I can't see how the fans won't get on his back as they did with Big Scam whether in the Prem or Championship.

I hate to say it but maybe the drop may be a blessing in disguise, obviously the money involved would be a major blow, but it may give us time to regroup and a team and force us into having some kind of direction as a club, I just fear if we did stay in the Prem next season may be not as different as this season, we do need a complete clear out and some fresh and hungry players brought in, staying in the Prem may put this on hold where as if in the championship it kind of forces us to have a clear out.

If I had my choice of a manager if we did take the drop it would be for me Gary Rowett, his young seems to have a direction and could be one to look out for in the future.

All ifs and buts, but we do need to get this problem between the fans and the board resolved as soon as possible, negativity is infectious and the longer this goes on the deeper the club gets to rock bottom, it is resolvable but IMO the board need to take the first step, even if they think they have done nothing wrong.

Warrington Seymour



11 Mar 2018 07:34:39
So this has what it has come to, cival war within our club, some WH fan groups at logger heads the fans frustration yesterday was a long time coming . Of course pitch invasions are unacceptable and has no place in our club but you can't help thinking that the DGS took a massive gamble not signing the required playets in Jan, which a gamble they have lost.

This for me now is no longer weather we stay up or not . frankly I no longer care, what's worring me is we as a club are being split in half buy the current board which in my 38 years of watching the club have never seen so much internal hate, not only towards the board but even within our own fans. It gutting to hear and see.

I want this season over, and I hate to say it but I don't care if we go down, I don't care if the DGs lose millions on fire sale, I don't care if Moyes decides to walk, what I do care is unity within the the club with fans back together and us in line with the board BUT unfortunately under this regime nothing will change. How have these 3 stooges let us get to this point? , lies and taking all of us for fools, Heartbreaking truely Heartbreaking.

Warrington Seymour



05 Mar 2018 12:32:42
OK for once i'm going to try be a little bit positive about all of this, I may get shot down but there you go

If they purchase the ground at least we will get what we want which is a home we can call our own, many have complained including me that selling a home to go and rent was a bad idea even if the terms of rent were good,

If they purchased and converted I personally do not care how much profit they get when they sell, as long as when they do sell. the ground is ours and is converted. saying that I would like them to sell ASAP

Yes of course this is going to be expensive and even with investors you would think it would have an impact on future transfer buys, BUT let's think about this, they don't spend any money anyway, so at least we get a home and proper stadium, and as they never buy any players of worth it really makes no difference.

OK things look bad at the moment in the relegation stakes, obviously we do not want championship football, but if it comes to it there nothing we can do, we will never under the current regime be anywhere near the top 6, we are a 2nd tier team along with the other 13 / 14 teams in the division. Sometimes I think the Premier league may as well be a 10 league division, apart from the very rare occasion, the usual suspects are evident,

If your not in a relegation battle your season is over. If we did drop down to the championship we would be one of the top 6, maybe we could build a team and start again, as currently all I can see with this team is a mish mash, no cohesion no passion and certainly very little flair. We may have something to cheer about next season, of course we would miss the big derbies and playing the top teams but were just a million miles away at the moment and dropping down if it has to be may just pull us together.

I agree with the comment that the DGS don't seem to care if we go down, and thinking about it they are no longer interested in the footballing side all they want is a pound note, Losing the Prem money is a drop in the ocean to them as far as the bigger picture is concerned, time we get our Parachute payments and than obviously the wage bill would reduce plus the sale of top players would imagine cover all of this for a couple of seasons

So in my view the quicker they buy the stadium is the quicker they can make there huge profit and bugger off and ruin other on going concerns, they are Business men and ruthless at that.

So if were in the Prem next year excellent, but don't expect anything will change from this season relegation battle. or if in the Championship we are there because we deserve to be there with many different aspects to blame. Even though in my opinion we have many seasons of rubbish ahead, we will come to the end of the tunnel for a better future. let's face it it can't get any worse. CAN IT?

Warrington Seymour

1.) 05 Mar 2018 18:14:21
Portsmouth? I know that’s completey different but yes things can always be worse BUT can always get better 😁😄 as always mate we continue to go because we love our club COYI’s.

2.) 06 Mar 2018 08:01:09
Spot on Warrington Seymour I've been thinking the same thing especially as teams below us fight for their survival putting in performances and getting results whilst we stroll through games thinking we're safe instead of showing some grit and passion COYI.

3.) 09 Mar 2018 11:54:47
why was HURGILL bought when he isn't playing tells me we only signed him to keep fans on side. COYI.




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16 Apr 2018 09:52:56
thanks for info Mike, who will be overseeing the transfers as I thought Gold was stepping back and am unaware of a new appointment?

Also has Moyes indicated he will be staying on?, I don't see how we can identify certain players which I would imagine he would be the type of player he wants, as you mentioned in previous posts he only wants a few existing players to stay and the rest can go.

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09 Apr 2018 10:00:01
Hi Phil

I dont think Big Scam will be at Everton come next season, as I said many a time his the Red Adair of the Prem and even when he has a settled appointment in my view he is a middle of the table Manager, I think the Everton board who clearly want to move forward have seen enough of his style to get rid, and I dont think he will get many Christmas cards from the Everton fans

Fredericks would be a good appointment as would Ward Prowse but unsure on Austin.

Im not so sure that Moyes will be there next season, I know the DGS want him as Mike has told us, but I dont know if he wants to stay, I personally think he would settle us for a couple seasons and we would not be in this position with his own players, but will the fans want his style of play? . he has a get out of jail card at the moment in keeping us up, but once he brings in his style of players would it not be like when we had Big Scam?, the fans were hardly enthralled with how he set about things.

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27 Mar 2018 12:45:04
Concerning Moyes, at the beginning of March I had a heart ablation and my Surgeon was a massive Everton fan, according to this surgeon apparently (and I do not remember) Everton one season had a disastrous start to the season and Moyes could not pinpoint the reason, as the players looked miserable and just didn't seem interested even at the start of season, they bought in a sports physiologist which was a good friend of this surgeon and apparently it was Moyes own body language and how miserable he also seemed to be which was rubbing off on certain players,

Moyes was informed of this and he started to lighten up which in turn saw results improve and they went on the have a good season,

Obviously this could be total rubbish but could it actually be Moyes and the way he goes about things and how he treats players could be relaying itself back to the players in a negative way, especially if he constantly telling players to improve all the time, of course not main reason but he does come across as a miserable git and it could be a factor.!

Lets hope Moyes in Florida got to know his players a little personally, rather than walk around looking like his lost a tenner and found a penny.

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08 Mar 2018 16:19:01
Yes Mpyes will have a right clear out, get in the boring steady players with no flair, he will leave as the fans will not put up with dull crap, we will than need season or more to try bring in some kind of exciting players, fecking great something to look forward to.

Id rather be in a lower division and play with some flaie and enjoy a game of football rather than watch paint dry and i'm serious on that.

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08 Mar 2018 07:34:27
So Lanzini not on Moyes keepers list, who has he earmarked no flair players but solid professionals with average ability.

Mark my words everyone Moyes wants will make us into a team dullier than under big scam, if we stay up and he brings in who he wants, granted we will not be in a relegation battle next year, but prepare yourself to be bored to tears wirh his style of play.

I did say when he first got the job and everyone was bigging him up after Chelsea match, how long would it take fans get on his back, well he has grace until end of season but I guarentee once he has got hos type of player in the football will not be pretty and the fans will turn as they did with big scam.

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17 Apr 2018 11:25:16
Hi Jason

Arsenal have been poor, but I can't see him playing his big guns for a pointless match with such an important games on Thursday, My worry is Moyes may be thinking that a point would be great which will restrict us and no doubt play deeper than the Atlantic.

Southampton play at Leicester Thursday night and than the FA cup semi against Chelski on Sunday, I think Hughes will play his strongest team Thursday and Sunday match is a bonus,

If Stoke lose at home to Burnley, Stoke would have to win their last 3 matches to go past us, 2 wins and a draw with their goal difference would not be good enough unless we get absolutely hammered in our games.

That leaves Southampton, should they lose away at Leicester than they would need to win 2 and a draw to equal our points, this is all providing we lose every match for the rest of the season.

Bloody hell this is ridiculous, playing on ifs and buts to stay in the Division, I know Moyes has steadied the ship but we should be out of trouble by now, his be in charge 6 months.

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06 Mar 2018 10:56:42
Hi Budgie

The stats don't lie obviously, but you need to take into account the first 11 games of this season under SB, we / he looked pretty clueless so although the stats will show no improvement I feel SB just had to go otherwise we would have already been set adrift by now.

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09 Feb 2018 11:26:06
Hi Dabber welcome to the debate

The point about not spending money in Jan for fear of going down is noted. but would that be not the reason to spend money on positions we desperately needed to give us a greater chance of not going down, take Dendoncker for example £20m, even if he turned out absolutely crap i'm sure we would off load for something near that, his 22 a Belguim International and if he did get a game in the World Cup and done well maybe even make a profit, so the initials outlays in realty worse case scenario is we may have lost a few mill.

Your right these two are proven business men. BUT not in football, its a completely different than selling smut. When you say business as a whole? . so do you mean if we were in championship and and making £5m profit a year that's OK? . as its good business!

The need to stop lying hire a competent Director of Football and stay in the back ground and run the club, there is enough money in the Prem and our ground for them to make a profit and still enhance the club, by alienating a decent income source ( fans gate money) is really not great business IMO.

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07 Feb 2018 12:28:28
Hi Phil

I think quite a few of us have been banging on about a DOF for quite a while as its clear Sullivan is as much use as a Chocolate Teapot in the window.

The problem I see is he still thinks he is negotiating selling bulk top shelf mags to the local newsagent and does not understand that clubs can sell else where if not to WH, so when a player is said to be worth £10m no point going in at £9.99p to start the bidding, its not an Egyptian Suk!

Also I Honesty do not think he likes to trust anyone with any financial outlay, such as transfers as his controlled business mind would be " I could have done better" . but that the problem, why we never get much done because his always after a bargain, This will not change until he goes and unfortunately the way it is. even if he did appoint a DOF I guarantee he would still want to control everything .

Unfortunately mate until he sells or pops his clogs what ever comes first were stuck with all this crap, As he seems like a pigheaded, I know best kind of person, even the planned protests will only make him dig his heels in deeper I feel, he will go when his ready to go and not before I fear.

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07 Feb 2018 09:59:35
Hi Chelmsford, for me personally the point is the bigger picture, how many windows do we have to go through with the same old crap, IMO Moyes will leave in the summer regardless because of the way the board act in windows and maybe not keeping there word.

Another Manager will come in probably from abroad and someone desperate to Manage in the Prem, and the cycle starts again.

The board need to realise the contempt of a lot of fans is not a fad and will not go away unless they sell or change how they deal with things. There is enough room to keep the fans happy with signings and to make a profit for themselves, we all know there are keeping finances tight for their own gains for when there ready to sell, the problem is the greed in all of this,

They can make a healthy living running the club and gradually build and keep the fans happy at the same time, for such wealthy business men it should not be rocket science to balance out, but I just think they are a pair of greedy people who have no idea how to manage a football club, i'm sure they look at things as us being punters ( customers as they call us is a nicer word) and not fans.

Grab what you can when you can, spend the minimum in outlay as possible and sell at the right time for shed loads, great as a business plan. but not the way a club should be run, although football now days is a big business, it should also be a passion for the owners not just the fans.

I personally hate the way football is governed by how much money is involved, once a working mans sport has been taken over by corporate and when it implodes which I think eventually it will a lot of clubs may no longer be around as the investors will find some other toy to play with!

Warrington Seymour