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23 Feb 2019 11:37:28
Another forward being looked at is Joelinton of Hoffenheim, he joins the list, apparently a couple of clubs trying to make a precontract deal for him IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

{Ed002's Note - He cannot sign a pre-contract - that is illegal.}


1.) 23 Feb 2019 12:21:21
Best tell that to Newcastle not WH, they are on the job, but unlikely to get him IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - Newcastle are not looking for a pre-contract with the player - that is illegal and they understand the rules whereas others clearly don't.}


2.) 23 Feb 2019 18:00:37
Ramsay has a pre - contract?

{Ed002's Note - He does indeed.}


3.) 24 Feb 2019 03:22:44
ITS the age of this striker principally, that prevents a precontract, BUT doesn’t stop an agreement;t in principle. IRONMIKE.

{Ed002's Note - Try and stop making stuff up MIke, it is really embarrassing.}


4.) 24 Feb 2019 19:56:50
would that not be like tapping up a player?


5.) 24 Feb 2019 20:30:32
by pre contract i presume mike means do a deal with hoffenheim where as the fee and deal with hoffenheim where we agree a price and then talk to said player about wages etc-get it all agreed before window opens-then opening day of window announce it it formally and all is legal, this is common place and happens regularly does it not.

{Ed002's Note - No, he doesn't know what he means and then is making stuff up about the age of the player. I don't know why you wish to drag this out - he simply does not understand the rules and constantly makes stuff up.}


6.) 25 Feb 2019 07:51:07
I don’t expect anyone on here to be an all-knowing guru.

Civil disagreement is a healthy thing, but why push it to be unsavoury?

I enjoy the debate, but not the pettiness.


7.) 25 Feb 2019 16:10:10
I have read this site continually for a while and if people pm here haven't worked out yet that It ironmike talks out of his arse most of the time and that ed002 is just trying to save you from getting your hopes up then you are just nieve
Ed002 keep calling him out he might go away again.


8.) 25 Feb 2019 18:35:04
I reckon it’s naive to call someone nieve (which, ironically, means closed hand or fist) .


9.) 25 Feb 2019 19:52:19
He's contracted until 2022 by all accounts so won't be signing a pre contract (which someone in last 6 months of their deal can do if moving abroad I believe) with anyone.


10.) 28 Feb 2019 07:01:59
What’s the problem? It’s a rumour site, is there any need to start getting personal, it’s ridiculous, people of all ages read this to see how their team are doing or what they are doing and they read this, grow up for god sake, there’s no need to question what’s written to the point of causing an argument and to tell people to leave. It’s like a school play ground, people post and people read, if u really want to waste your time replying to cause arguments, or attack other people then do it somewhere else. Show a bit of respect, my nephew and his sister read this show site to see how there team are going and they read this it’s bad enough that they listen this sort a stuff at school, he said she said. It’s embarrassing. everytime mike posts Ed shoots him down like a bully or troll, it never used to happen but it’s all the time, good way to set an example.
Joke it is sort ya selves out.


11.) 28 Feb 2019 18:31:28
Well said Whitby. All these people who keep slating people are so ridiculous who hide behind their computer. It goes to show how immature these people are (we know who they are. I won't post names as they never get posted) . If you don't like what someone says. then either don't read it . or go somewhere else. It's a shame that people resort to this. as Whitby says. mlots of young people will read this. show some respect. we like mike's posts. immature.


12.) 01 Mar 2019 00:46:00
Whitby and Hammerdave I loudly applaud you both! Ed02 wrote a fantastic response to Warringtons question a couple of weeks ago that was informative and in depth and really appreciated but I feel their responses to Mike are unnecessarily harsh and unpleasant. Mike voluntarily offers information that is rumour, this is a rumour site. Both Ed02 and Mike have a place on it. Ironbax who has come on telling Ed to bully Mike off the site in my opinion should zip it .


13.) 01 Mar 2019 06:05:54
Agree dab. I appreciate everyone's contribution on this site. whether that be accurate or not. At the ends of the day. it's a rumour site. nothing is guaranteed.

{Ed001's Note - but Mike is not claiming to be giving rumours, he is claiming to be giving legitimate information, then refusing to accept when any of it is not true and arguing and making nasty little digs at Ed002 that I have to delete. Mike has been doing this for years, passing on stuff that is patently not true and then getting all arsey when anyone points out that it is utter bull, which it is.

Perhaps if he would stop claiming it is all true and would accept when people who actually do have information point out that what he is saying is untrue, things would be a lot better.

I know you don't see what we delete, so you are only seeing a part of the conversation, but it is not one way, it is not Ed002 being a bully or a troll. I fail to see why anyone has a problem when false information is pointed out? Or do you just want to be fed patently false stories?}


14.) 01 Mar 2019 17:38:31
Look . I think we should just let things be. There are worse things happening in the world. I understand your point ed and I can see that you care about the fans giving good info. I just think the way it's been handled has been poor. i'm sure everyone appreciates your input as it's always top notch. And the same goes for Mike. In my view you are both so valuable to the site and give us fans a great insight into what's happening with the club. we don't expect every post to be true but appreciate the effort you both make. Can everyone just move on from this and just show a bit of kindness.


15.) 02 Mar 2019 10:55:06
Amen to that.


16.) 05 Mar 2019 11:42:29
C'mon guys, this is generally a friendly site.
How about ED002, when something is written that is patently untrue, simply do not publish.
I get Mike meant a verbal agreement (we all know these are illegal - but have been going on for years with agents), I just googled and saw the lad had a contract to 2022 so wasn't possible to get a precontract.
Also, the player in question looks sh! te.

{Ed002's Note - Not about his age then? Why open this up again?}


17.) 06 Mar 2019 13:41:51
Fair enough, always wait for your responses anyway - loved the insight into how transfer monies were paid and the info around how work permits are allocated, has been really useful in sifting through the junk.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}


 

 

22 Feb 2019 10:26:19
TEA PARTY gathering This weekend, to discuss ATALANTAS proposal of pre contract deal for Duvan . Zapata The Italians have a fixed option deal with Sampadoria ( 22 -5 m euro ) for Zapata who is currently at Atalanta on loan WH are being asked 40m euro with Sampadorias fee being payable on agreement the balance following season, nice quick profit for Atalanta WHILST Zapata is blowing hot at present. He would be. 28 on joining us, It's a quandry , and while I think he would do well for us, should we not be looking for players below 24, Gomez is now unlikely with. Barcelona about and it looks like we will be pursuing 3/ 4 forwards IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

1.) 22 Feb 2019 17:02:44
He is Sampdoria's player though, innit? Only on loan at Atalanta.
So surely any pre-contract agreements would have to go through Sampdoria first and Atalanta second, right?


2.) 23 Feb 2019 00:57:50
That’s exactly. What I have said in the post IRONMIKE.


3.) 23 Feb 2019 10:26:28
I just find it strange that a club that doesn't own a player yet is initiating transfer discussions.
I know that clauses are the norm now where a loan player can be bought for a fixed price when the loan expires. I just didn't think the loaning club would be in a position to confidently put a player on the market that isn't even their player yet. It somehow feels weird.


4.) 23 Feb 2019 11:01:58
May feel strange but that’s how it is, , I know that Husillos is very keen on this player, He is a proper forward no question. It’s his age and the amount we have to pay is one half of our standing budget ( pre sales ) , it’s a difficult call, if we take him maybe we will try to keep hold of Arnie, and look for a secondary younger striker to make three Three out three in, we have the wage caoacity no problem, with so many players ready for the exit door, IRONMIKE.


5.) 24 Feb 2019 08:56:53
I suppose it depends on the type of player. If Zapata doesn’t rely solely on pace, it’s less of an issue. In any event he’s 28 on April 1st (! ) - surely he should have a good 4 years left at the top level.

Dolberg might well be a better option.

Anyone know anything about Chalov?


6.) 24 Feb 2019 09:05:42
As for agreement between the clubs:

Because Atalanta can enforce the option to buy from Sampdoria, there would need to be an agreement between Atalanta and WH before Atalanta confirm they are pursuing their option to buy.

In effect, they are saying to WH, “If he becomes our player, will you commit to buying him from us? ”.


7.) 24 Feb 2019 11:31:03
Correct. IRONMIKE.


 

 

20 Feb 2019 05:31:09
AISSA MENDI of Betis Is one coming under WH spotlight can play RB CB buyout clause must be met 20 m euro, IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

1.) 20 Feb 2019 22:50:28
Id be AMAZED if any top club would pay £35million for ARNAUTOVIC in the summer he isn't IMO good enough for the top 4 or 5 and theywouldnt be attractedto him and a lowerclub he wouldn't be interested in as he thinks he's top top draw and he ain't IMO he's good but not near good enough if I was asked but i'm not so i will go now bye. COYI.


2.) 24 Feb 2019 12:24:46
Ask his brother. 😉.


 

 

19 Feb 2019 12:46:50
Remember in your thinking that although we will have many leaving us this summer, they are not going to raise a fortune on a combined basis, , and Although I expect us to once again have a go in the market It's going to be a bit less than last season plus sales, for that reason no doubt we will be looking at a few free agents along the way, it's a fact of life, and another reason, we are trying to increase slowly the ground capacity, for that revenue to go into the kitty There's also a clearance in place mentally for the u 23 squad as well, IRONMIKE.

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19 Feb 2019 05:22:42
Interesting little development WH have had meeting with Brother of Arnautovic, and have told him if he wants to arrange a pre contract agreement for Arnie elsewhere Including the UK they say no problem he is free to do so, WH are willing to accept an offer of. 35m ( which is fractionally less ) than they were offered in January NOW this is laying down the law big time, plenty of fish in the sea say WH Brother in shock, bluff called , WH now trying to push the player out. IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

1.) 19 Feb 2019 06:59:06
Mike, that’s great news for me, get rid of him! I was a massive Arnie fan when he had settled down after he was moved up front by D, Moyes, for one reason or another he is a major irritant and possibly disruptive influence within the club now, when he has played recently he has been almost anonymous with a “cannot be bothered” attitude! We are safe now within reason, give others a chance that are prepared to at least put effort in, we have virtually nobody of any quality that we can call a goal scorer up front anyway, Hernandez, rubbish, Carroll, well no comment, so we have nothing to lose! We did well enough without him when he sulking for a 4 week period when we scored 12 goals in 4 games!


2.) 19 Feb 2019 09:26:11
I am still an Arnie fan. Last season, as you say Chelmsford, under Moyes he was basically responsible for getting us out of the relegation places with the goals he scored.

This season not so good and when he was injured we went on a winning streak when he was injured. Now the attitude is all wrong so he needs confidence and a bit of clever player management from the coaches ala Moyes it's all about Motivation and he needs some.


3.) 19 Feb 2019 11:08:35
Mike I don't get your latest post on WH stance on Arnie, on 3 points

Firstly if they are willing to accept a little bit under what was offered why didn't they just sell him in Jan?

Secondly why on earth let the brother know what they would accept in money wise?, if he came back and bangs in the goals some team somewhere may offer more than the £35m

Thirdly, why tell the brother now?, Arnie can throw more toys out the pram than Hamelys in London, surely if he knows we don't want him he will sulk and not give his best especially if we gave him an improved contract in Jan, and going back to my first point why did they not just get rid?

Sorry I may be missing something but I just don't get it.


4.) 19 Feb 2019 11:38:13
Firstly it’s clear WH now think they should have taken the money in January, it was the thought THEN, that they don’t want to lose a top player halfway through the season Ok , BUT they have now taken the stance, that they can buy elsewhere, which they can, and Arnie is now going through the motions looking disinterested, what do we need that behaviour for. ? With the season, at the 12 game stage, we need perhaps 6 points to secure safety, we don't look likely to do much in the upward direction, so it’s avery good time. To start weighing things up for the future, where we will have a bus load leaving for one reason or another shortly, it’s going to be busy busy. IRONMIKE.


5.) 19 Feb 2019 14:02:50
The difference between January and the summer is that we weren't able to secure a replacement in January.

Also prices are always inflated in January (for the reason above) so would Arnie's price have been.

Looks like they are going to try and get the summer business done early if they can and need to have a plan in place.


6.) 19 Feb 2019 14:57:43
For me, MP’s take must be that he no longer wants Arnie. The disruption caused over the winter window will have irritated him and that was all down to brothers Arnautovic.

The squad was unsettled and results suffered.

As we had no success in acquiring a top replacement, I can fully understand the club’s refusal to let him go.

In order to be able to move on somewhere for a better payday, Arnie will need to up his game and make himself an attractive proposition, whether that’s for China, or elsewhere.

Perez is done, Chicha wants to move and Carroll has no hope of another contract.

MP will have the interesting and exciting task of completely revamping the tip of our strike force.

I am still looking forward to the rest of this season, especially with Manu’s return and others returning from injury, but I can see next season as being a real breakthrough one.

Ever the optimist. 😏.


7.) 19 Feb 2019 23:50:52
The Chinese window is still open so theoretically could still sell him and get more now than they would at the end of the season. So if MO and the club really feel his disruptive influence outweighs the need for a striker till the end of the season they could still sell him. So not sure how much of this is true and how much is speculation.


8.) 20 Feb 2019 00:58:05
No it’s not speculation, yes he can be off now, eastbound, BUT can’t be replaced, so it’s pointless, considering, the other options up front, that’s why he’s still with us morelike IRONMIKE.


9.) 20 Feb 2019 03:57:39
Well if true sounds like really poor player management. If he is so disruptive let him go now. If he isn’t and you want him to put in effort till the end of the season then talk to the player about helping him achieve his ambitions with a move at the end of the season if he commits himself now. To go to his brother and say what has been suggested means you keep him around, make him more likely to continue being sullen and stroppy, and achieve nothing. Great plan.


10.) 20 Feb 2019 05:25:02
I would say the die is already cast IRONMIKE.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2019 05:46:22
THE POINT is RICE is worth more than that, with the upcoming changes to the rules . There will be a minimum 20% uplift on transfer prices for Homegrown players RICE is an extremely talented PROVEN defender at just twenty years old he's worth at least 75 m, WHAT some of you are not yet grasping, is we won't be able to balance the squad, between the two halves, on other HG players, that's a fact BIRMINGHAM are now looking at 25. M for CHE, who's never played premiership level, so where are we going to spend that money, and we have NO BODY in the U 23 at anywhere near that kind of level, That is the problem 12/ 13players Homegrown in the squad whom do we have ? Hmmm that's your problem IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

1.) 21 Feb 2019 08:40:28
Mike if you could just to clear up can you answer the following please

1)How many HG players are required now in a squad, and does that only cover English players Not Scotland, Wales NI or ROI as HG?

2)In a squad does that mean a squad named for the match as in the new rules you will have to have 12/ 13 HG either playing or available for substitution

3) When do these new rules kick in?

4) Will they be a loop hole that the likes of Man C, etc will be able to exploit or will this be absolutely concrete

5) Will these new rules apply to the Championship, Leagues 1,2, or just Prem teams,

Apologies if this is common knowledge but just wanted clarification what these new rules will mean, especially the impact it may have on the so called bigger teams

Thank you.


2.) 21 Feb 2019 10:29:25
THERE are NO new rules as yet the HG rules are what is Suspected to happen after Brexit , It is thought that nothing much will happen immediately. BUT will start to. change at the 20/ 21 21/ 22 seasons, I personally think that it will happen and a minimum of 12 HG players to squad of 25 is the. MOST likely to happen, There are massive advantages here for local players who’s value will be higher, and they will be the most sought after, It will apply naturally to the whole of the U. K. Loopholes? If there are Man City with respect will find them. BUT being localised, it would be easier for the FA to rub the loopholes out and launch massive fines, Similar if not identical rules will apply to all divisions WHILST we may eventually have a better National side because of this, SKY and BT are already pulling there Hair out as it may well see the overall standard of football in the premier slip And therefore the premier league may not retain its present NUMBER ONE viewer status IRONMIKE.


3.) 21 Feb 2019 16:37:10
Cheers Mike, it may also bring the Prem back in line where as it may make it more competitive, rather than the usual suspects. It will also make clubs look nearer to home for players rather than go and buy some oversea player, hence scout properly in the UK which in my view seems to have been ignored

I personally welcome all of this, it gives our own HG a chance, plus hopefully eridcate lazy journeyman from abroad earning what HG can get.

Whats not to like about it? . Anyone have a different view?


4.) 21 Feb 2019 21:52:03
We all saw what happened to Serie A when they put the brakes on foreign players and introduced HG rules. BSerie A was the best league but it still hasn’t really recovered. The PL need to work with the FA and tread carefully or the global money will drop off.


5.) 22 Feb 2019 06:15:05
There’s plenty of arguement on both sides, WH need to start searching around at home MUCH MORE WE frankly do nothing much in the U. K. and this needs to change pronto, we also need to MAKE sure that no one we presently have right Down ; to the juniors escapes the net, we need to be 100%certain That we are not letting HG players go, and then, the player rebounds on us at a later date IRONMIKE.


 

 

18 Feb 2019 03:28:21
Further to the Sala discussion Everton WH and two other clubs have received letters from. Cardiff City, asking about there previous interest in the Acquiring of Sala, wether it was genuine interest Informal chat etc etc, WHAT on earth has this got to do with the acquisition of the player CARDIFF are pursuing the line that they were cajoled into buying the player on the back of other clubs making a hot pursuit.

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18 Feb 2019 03:28:06
Since posting, my last response, re Sala It has become clear that Cardiff City are in fact insured. BUT not to an amount which covers the entire fees and on costs which are almost 20 million pounds, The insurance company involved have a clause inserted in the contract. ( as we all have in most insurance papers ) Which reads not withstanding AN ACT OF GOD And are trying to use this clause to reduce their liability and therefore make. Cardiff fully responsible, Naturally the football club are not having it . and are trying to insinuate the buying price was rigged And much inflated by the agent (Willie McKay) and others, by the agent informing them that Everton, WH Fulham And at least one other premier club were hotly chasing the player! I cannot speak for the other clubs but WH made an enquiry. Had a talk with the agent and that's it, AS I said he was a. Cardiff City registered player. And they gave him permission to return to his former club, and we know the rest, , THIS could turn out to be very tricky , if this doesn't get resolved quickly and in an amicable fashion, at the end of the day The whole affair is down to Cardiff, who could find themselves in trouble with the FA if they don't complete the opening payment which is by March 1st, it's a very unfortunate and unique situation, BUT it's going to be very closely observed by all the teams and there respective insurers. IRONMIKE.

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16 Feb 2019 03:22:13
Bound to happen, FA now warning clubs of rule changes post Brexit Work permits, non renewable contracts, without FA permission, WH asking for more specific details, FA may not be in a position to clarify new rules until seasons end HOME GROWN talent maybe coming to the fore And foreign nationals already with clubs in England will be given preference on contracts, to those outside UK this could get very insular, which may be good for some home grown boys, but is it good for the game ? FA. May insist at some future date that there MUST be a particular number. Of UK players in first team squad much higher than now, NASRI -- although some sites are rubber stamping another deal for him MP hasn't done anything in the light of other players becoming available and possible rule changes IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

1.) 16 Feb 2019 21:40:45
We all saw what happened to Serie A when they stopped the import of players. I don’t think Brexit will change much with regards to football, but we will see.


2.) 17 Feb 2019 11:09:28
In light of these potential new rulings would we be better casting out to players like Lokaku who appears way down the United pecking order and realistically does anyone think we would be in a position to compete for him .?


3.) 17 Feb 2019 12:32:59
At present we are in the dark with the supposed new rulings, it’s a wait and see game IRONMIKE.


 

 

13 Feb 2019 15:20:11
There is a film which I don't think is going on general release which I have been privileged to see Which is an off cut to the Jesse Owens story just how good was Jesse Owens the winner of the 100 metre dash in the pre war person German Olympics WELL his time of 10-3 seconds Doesn't Compare with Usains Bolts. Of 9-7 seconds Owens is 14 strides behind on a run tape between the two athletes, Hmmm OR IS HE?

If you take into account Owens shoes weighed 1/2 kilo each and the spikes on soles were 1 1/2 inches long, and he's digging into a soft mixture of ash cinders and gravel the scientists have worked out that given shoes that weigh just 4 ounces each as per bolts given a rock hard track with no give in it As today's tracks are Owens they calculate would have been only One stride behind.

BUT then of course Owens had a STANDING start for that time ! Bolt ran from Blocks, THEN what about how much training methods and diet have improved in those 80 years LAST word from BOLT Who has always suspected this anyway, and Owens is his hero, after all " Fastest man alive " yes, I am the fastest man ever No I don't think so. RESPECT to you Usain. IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

1.) 14 Feb 2019 07:00:54
I ran the 100m in bare feet when i was a nipper of 14, in 9.8 minutes , u have to bare in mind i was not in training except on the old specials going away trains playing brag,

Anyone remember the old cheap trains for away matches where u could get if quick enough a compartment to uself, quality.


 

 

 

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24 Feb 2019 03:22:44
ITS the age of this striker principally, that prevents a precontract, BUT doesn’t stop an agreement;t in principle. IRONMIKE.

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24 Feb 2019 11:31:03
Correct. IRONMIKE.

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23 Feb 2019 12:21:21
Best tell that to Newcastle not WH, they are on the job, but unlikely to get him IRONMIKE.

Ironmike

{Ed002's Note - Newcastle are not looking for a pre-contract with the player - that is illegal and they understand the rules whereas others clearly don't.}


 

 

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23 Feb 2019 11:01:58
May feel strange but that’s how it is, , I know that Husillos is very keen on this player, He is a proper forward no question. It’s his age and the amount we have to pay is one half of our standing budget ( pre sales ) , it’s a difficult call, if we take him maybe we will try to keep hold of Arnie, and look for a secondary younger striker to make three Three out three in, we have the wage caoacity no problem, with so many players ready for the exit door, IRONMIKE.

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23 Feb 2019 00:57:50
That’s exactly. What I have said in the post IRONMIKE.

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12 Apr 2019 20:24:16
Pellegrini and his coaching staff are taking VAR lessons at the moment from a company called CPC. regards IRONMIKE.

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23 Feb 2019 11:18:11
Well said, spot on, we are not finishing the chances created. We have had this problem for a long long time The last few games I lost count of how many times we crossed the ball to Errrr No one I just sit there and Gently shake my head Wondering what would happen if we had a quality pair up front it’s time to sort this out this coming window, RICE, as, I posted is an. 80 m player and he will not be sold either or MP will go up the wall, he’s the first name on the team sheet now, We have a fine little nucleus to the squad, and a few decent squad players, it’s how to juggle the finances, to fill the many voids, it can be done, it’s just three numbers but it’s a long way in football from 9th to 6th which is our aim It’s going to be easily as interesting as last year when we get to end April, so you can get the feel about the window. IRONMIKE.

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23 Feb 2019 08:22:52
LOTS to do in the window as I said we are goingti be a busy club. IRONMIKE.

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23 Feb 2019 01:01:30
Not a satisfying game, but we got the result, clear handball Hernamdez, Cairney on our very very long list of possibles IRONMIKE.

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22 Feb 2019 06:15:05
There’s plenty of arguement on both sides, WH need to start searching around at home MUCH MORE WE frankly do nothing much in the U. K. and this needs to change pronto, we also need to MAKE sure that no one we presently have right Down ; to the juniors escapes the net, we need to be 100%certain That we are not letting HG players go, and then, the player rebounds on us at a later date IRONMIKE.

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