12 Feb 2018 10:01:16
If the dailrecord is correct ( if if if ) could then the reason for West Ham United still weighing up mangers be because Moyes might leave for the Scotland national job? Or could it be just some leverage on the board for them to offer him his full contract sooner than the summer? Or just more tabloid hot air?


1.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 15:26:21
I'd lay a hefty wedge of cash that he is our manager next season based reading between the lines. And TBH he is doing ok especially when you consider where we are now compared to what we were like under SB. Am not blaming SB entirely but I think he was too soft whereas MOYES has made it clear its his way or the highway.


2.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 21:56:43
I’d agree phil.


3.) 13 Feb 2018
13 Feb 2018 10:38:20
I also agree with Phil, but the problem I see comes down to the usual for Managers is time. Looking at Big Scam and Slav they only get 2 years at a time, which is fine but will Moyes want a little more commitment than that to mould and build a side?, both sides of the coin have a good argument.

We need to stabilise in all areas, from the board, Manager, team players and also the fans. Continuity IMO is the base of success, if we can get some kind of harmony between the areas it a start.

I was very sceptical of Moyes when appointed, but give him his due, he has to an extent managed to steer us into calmer waters, I think he should be given a 3 year deal and given the wheel to the ship, the board ( as reported) need to step back and trust his judgement and basically let him get on with it. if they can't do that, I think Moyes may just leave and take the Scotland job. and once again we will be set adrift.

Also I have a niggle that if Moyes did take the job full time, we all know he can be somewhat negative in the style of play. Big Scam is not dissimilar IMO, and look at the stick he got.

We need to realise where we are as a club, the heady heights of the last season at Upton maybe fooled us ( including DGS) we were ready for the next level. basically we are NOT. we need to start building the foundations properly and think Moyes is the man to do this.

A blessing for me that Caroll has hopefully played his last game for the club and not confusing Moyes judgement to have him starting instead of Hernandez,

In Hernandez, Marko, Lanzini, Antonio, and Mario we do have a exciting players that all can score, if DM can balance the team to be strong defensively but dynamic when going forward we will get to where we want sooner rather than later.

I do worry marko may have a great rest of season and than as usual the Big Boys come in sniffing, it will be interesting to see his attitude of commitment if he gets a chance to go somewhere bigger., if they get an offer for him for £40m plus ( which I think is a possibility if he continues to play as he is) I spose would suit both parties and I can't see us keeping hold of him as his desire to go up another level.

Anyway all if and buts, let get safe and we can all evaluate and see what will happen in the summer.


4.) 13 Feb 2018
13 Feb 2018 11:15:20
Hi Warrington some good points in your post and the one thing DGS have always shown is loyalty to the manager unless of course things get so bad allah Grant and Slav

Assuming we do stay up then I think a 3 year Contract for Moyes will be forthcoming of course if he wants it and that could be the start of a 3 to 5 year plan. This will also allow DGS to finally sell out hopefully to Tabor consortium.


5.) 13 Feb 2018
13 Feb 2018 11:20:04
Nice post Warrington and I must admit I agree with everything you say except for Arnie. £40m in this day and age is nothing and if the big boys came sniffing I'd expect him to go for a lot more than that! He is a game changer and in the premier league they are priceless. Look at Hazard, Coutinho etc etc etc who all have that same game changing ability. Hopefully we won't sell him. On the flip side you have players like Carroll who am sorry to say I don't see where he fits in MOYES future plans. He has had it too easy for too long and getting £80k a week for lying in bed isn't funny. Time to get rid and use the money wisely elsewhere.


6.) 13 Feb 2018
13 Feb 2018 12:10:53
Hi Phil, funny you should say that as I originally typed £60m plus, but having thought about it due to his changeable attitude and although his showing what he can do when happy, I just wonder if something does not go his way he could be a negative impact in the dressing room. obviously I have no knowledge but just get the feeling.

If someone big came in at £40m, although as you say very cheap in today's inflated market, it would depend on his attitude to what club it is, and if he wanted to go, I fear he would do anything to get his wish, so as I put £40m plus as a price which would suit all in the long run if he threw his toys out the pram as I spose we still get a profit. but as you rightly say he is worth a lot more in todays market.


7.) 13 Feb 2018
13 Feb 2018 12:39:14
So Warrington, the question has to be (if he behaves himself and I think Moyes has his number) what's his value? He is 28 so about to come into his prime apparently so what's his worth to a big club. what's to say (dreaming a bit here) that a really big club abroad may come calling and then what!


8.) 13 Feb 2018
13 Feb 2018 17:34:03
Can't say that I think Moyes or any other manager should be given full control.

Manager's chop and change too much, and want full squad overhauls each time.

We need the club to have a strategic football vision, to hire a DoF charged with delivering that vision, and then to sign players and hire managers to support that vision.

That way when a manager or player leaves it doesn't turn the whole club upside down, but the vision for football at the club continues.

All controlling managers is an old school approach which is unsustainable at any club which doesn't have an unlimited source of massive funding, on account of the impact on a club a manager leaving then has.


9.) 14 Feb 2018
14 Feb 2018 08:49:15
Hi Stubbo

In vision do you mean a certain continuous style how the team plays no matter what Manager is in.


10.) 16 Feb 2018
16 Feb 2018 22:35:40
Exactly that.

Players and managers then recruited to fit that broader vision.

The manager essentially is head coach.